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grievances complained of by the workers in his plant. Matherson turned to Mr. Moore and asked if it was concerning his case. Moore replied that it was concerning his (Moore's] case.

Matherson then said that he would not discuss the case further and that he would not discuss any case with an outsider.

I then explained to Mr. Matherson that my thought was to try and help get this matter settled satisfactorily without trouble between the company and its employees; also, explained that I ha been requested by our office in Washington to investigate the complaint to determine if possible whether the complaint was justifiable before taking it up with the Textile Labor Relations Board.

Matherson stated that he did not care anything about that, and again said that he would not discuss the matter with us; that he did not need any advice from an outsider on how to run his business; that he had met a committee of the workers and that the case was settled. Also stated that he did not care who we turned the case over to, that when it got to the place where he could not run things as he thought was right, he would quit and turn the whole thing over to someone else.

I then explained to Mr. Matherson that I was not an outsider trying to interfere in his business; that I had a letter from the local union, composed of workers in his plant, showing that I had been duly elected on the committee as a representative chosen by the workers to represent them in this case, and that I would like for him to read this letter.

Matherson then said that he did not care anything about the letter and did not care to read it; stated again that the case was settled.

I stated to Mr. Matherson that the committee, which had discussed the case with him, had reported back to the local union that the committee had handled the case as far as they could, and could not reach any kind of satisfactory settlement, that I was then elected to act on the committee as the workers' representative, in this case.

Matherson then said, “Well, the case is settled satisfactory as far as I am concerned."

I asked Mr. Matherson if that was his idea of collective bargaining?

Matherson answered, “Well, we are operating under the code and handle things the way we think best and we do not need any advice from an outsider.”

WATSON. Mr. Matherson, are you familiar with section (8) of the code?
MATHERSON. I do not care to discuss that with you.

WATSON. Mr. Matherson, section 7 (a) of the N. I. R. A. which is section (8) of the Code of Fair Competition for the Cotton Textile Industry reads that employees shall have the right to organize and bargain collectively through representatives of their own choosing, and shall be free from the interference, restraint, or coercion of employers of labor, or their agents, in the designation of such representatives.

Matherson then said, “I don't care to discuss that with you; my statement still stands, I do not wish to discuss this case, or any other with you. I'll be the judge as to how we will run the plant, and as far as I'm concerned the case is closed."

Mr. Matherson then walked away. Mr. Moore and myself left the office.

Mr. Moore was discharged on March 18 and since that time until this attempt to discuss the case with Mr. Matherson, nothing had been said about him vacating the house in which he lived. About 30 minutes after the attempted conference, at which time we let the management know that we were going to take the case up to the Textile Labor Board, the following notice was delivered to Mr. Moore.

MOORESVILLE, N. C., April 23, 1935. Mr. T. F. MOORE,

House No. 427, Mooresville, N. C. DEAR SIR: You are hereby requested to vacate house no. 427, property of Mooresville Cotton Mills, on or before April 27, 1935. If the above request is not carried out by the above date, steps will be taken immediately for ejectment. Yours truly,


Superintendent, Mooresville Cotton Mills. We, the members and officials of local union 1221 of the United Textile Workers of America, in convention, this the 19th day of September 1935, do declare that some of the things now in practice by the overseers of the Mooresville Cotton Mills are tending to promote general discontent among the workers, Therefore, we cannot give our best services under such conditions as are prevalent at this time.

This situation has led us to make the following requests:

1. That the management of the Mooresville Cotton Mills adopt and live up to some fair rule for the hiring and discharging of workers.

2. That the overseers be immediately instructed by the management to discontinue the various methods of discrimination against union workers, such as laying them off under pretext that work is slack, and at the same time placing new hands in their places.

3. That all workers, where possible, be reinstated in their former positions immediately, who have been discharged on pretense of their having committed acts not in accord with the desires of some of their superiors, in which cases some investigations have led us to believe that the discharged persons were not given the best of treatment. In some cases that they have been taken undue advantage of because of their affiliations with union workers.

4. That our superintendent, Mr. W. F. Summers, change his attitude toward the workers of our organization, union, as some of his policies have proved to us that it is, and will continue to be, impossible for us as workers, to cooperate with him in the successful operation of the mill, so long as such tactics are employed. We request that unless an immediate correction of such dealings can be made very soon, we shall be forced to demand a change in this capacity.

In presenting these requests we feel justified that we are only asking that certain wrongs be righted, that we feel have been directed against our union, and its members.

Unless the management of the Mooresville Cotton Mills grant these requests, & strike will automatically become effective, at such time as the workers deem convenient, and will continue on all shifts until a satisfactory settlement has been reached between the union representatives and the mill management.

These requests drawn up and approved by the members, officers, and a special committee of the local union in convention, this, the 19th day of September 1935.

The following named committee is, hereby, duly elected to represent our union, and to present these petitions to the representatives of the Mooresville Cotton Mills.


LOCAL 1221, U. T. W. OF A.,

Mooresville, N. C. Of Mr. P. J. Cartin and daughter, Mrs. Julia Cook: On October 14, 1935, Mrs, Cook went to Mr. Marvin Wilhelms and asked for her job back. Mrs. Cook was a striker. Mr. Wilhelms, who is second hand and overseer in the weave room said: "I will see Mr. Roberts, who is head overseer of the weaving department. I don't know if he will give you your job back or not, because your daddy has been taking a part in the union.” She said that her father, Mr. P. J. Cartin was going to leave home if she went back to work. Mr. Wilhelms said we will send for you when we need you."

On October 15, 1935, they sent for Mrs. Julia Cook to come to work, and on October 17, 2 days later, Mr. Wilhelms, head overseer, came to her and said "Julia, is your daddy gone yet?” She said, “No.' Mr. Wilhelms then said, "If he is not gone by Monday I will not work you any longer.”

On October 18, Mr. Wilhelms told Mrs. Cook, “Mr. Šummers, the superintendent, saw you at work and got on Mr. Roberts and said 'if your father doesn't leave, don't come back Monday because he makes union speeches and is on the picket lines every day'.”

(Signed) Julia Cooke, (Signed) P. J. Cartin.


Mooresville, N. C., March 19, 1935. 1. A short time before the foregoing date, Mrs. Minnie Miller was laid off when the warps ran out on her regular job. Mrs. Miller asked that she be allowed spare work on other kinds of weaving that she could do, but was refused this privilege on the theory that she made too many seconds and that her production was under the required standard. Mr. Roberts looked at reports and found that her service had been about on an average with other workers on the same classi

fication of work. Mr. Roberts made the statement that Mrs. Miller had been talking too much. Mrs. Miller said she had never been warned about talking too much. Other weavers were changed from their jobs on this particular loom to different type of loom and different constructions of weaving which they had had no experience in operating, or little knowledge of the looms. Mrs. Miller had operated the dobby looms for some time before she went on the Whitin looms.

2. T. F. Moore was discharged on March 18, on the claim that his seconds were below the required standard and that his production was too low for that turned out by other weavers on the same construction of goods. Prior to this occurrence, Mr. Moore had been transferred from the smash job to a set of looms, allegedly, because he had been talking too much about the union, or trying to get workers to join the union while on the job. Our committee was told at this time, by Mr. Roberts, that if Mr. Moore's crippled hand gave him trouble that he would be taken care of, we didn't take this statement to mean Mr. Moore's discharge.

3. Our financial secretary, J. F. Rogers, was laid off on Tuesday, September 17, and told that work was slack. We realize this fact, but this man had been in the employ of the Mooresville Cotton Mills for about 9 years and so far as he or any of the workers know his work had been satisfactory. We know that this man is a capable worker, and peaceful as well. Several hands have been put to work since he was employed and we feel that if the work did get slack he should have been offered some one of the other jobs to which his seniority would entitle him. He was told by his second hand that he was capable of doing work that would be more remunerative, and should have something better and that he should lend his assistance in helping to get something for him, Rogers.

These grievances approved as read by the local in convention, this the 19th day of September 1935.



Mooresville, N. C.


I was first employed by the Mooresville Cotton Mills about the first or second week of November of 1925. My tenure of service this time lasted until the first week of April 1926, at which time I left Mooresville to attend school.

During February of 1927, I was reemployed by said company. This tenure of employment was terminated on Tuesday, September 17, at which time I was discharged by Mr. E. P. Swan, second hand in the grey inspection room.

On the morning of September 17, 1935, I went into the mill as usual. After setting a bag containing my lunch on a table where I usually worked I walked over to a towel stitcher machine and spoke to Mr. R. L. Thompson who operated the machine. I noticed Mr. M. M. Roberts approach Mr. Swan a few paces away. They met near to them leaned over against a towel box and remained for a short time as if they were discussing some matter. Later they both went off in the direction of the weave room. A few minutes later Mr. Swan returned. The starting whistle blew and I walked over to Mr. Swan's desk and asked him “Which way shall I start to work today?" He said “Wait a minute Jimmie, I want to talk with you.” Then he made this statement. “Jimmie, I know you ought to have a better job; you have a good head and have prepared yourself for something better. You will never get a better job as long as you stay in the cloth room for there is nothing in here for you. It would not be fair to leave you on the job as it will have to be done. If I can help you get something better, I'll do anything I can for you.” Then he told me I was let out.

"Ed if that is all there is to this thing, I am perfectly satisfied. But I believe there is something else behind the move.

During these several years I have worked for the company, most of my time has been spent in the inspection room. First as an inspector, then as a general help hand which made it necessary for me to do nearly every job in the department. Only on two occasions have I worked in any other departments of the mill. Mr. Summers had me work in his office for a few months. Again he sent me to work in the roller shop, which lasted only 2 weeks. I quit this job because I didn't think I was giving satisfactory work in that line. He allowed me to come back to the inspection room where I had remained until my discharge.


If my work was not giving satisfaction or had ever been unsatisfactory to my overseer, no complaint or warning was ever given to me. It is true that we had on a few occasions had different opinions about certain imperfections in cloth but we were always able to agree because I always took Mr. Swan's advice or instructions.



Mooresville, N. C.


On October 10, 1935, this conversation took place between Mack Brooks and B. H. Brooks, strikers, and Buck Owens, section hand in the Mooresville Cotton Mills:

Owens. How do you think things are going down at the mill?
Mack BROOKS. What things?
OWENS. This damned Messie strike.
Mack BROOKS. I think we are going to win the strike.

OWENS. I don't see what grounds you are going to win on with 900 hands working. By God, I'm working, and I am going to continue to work as long as we have protection.

B. H. BROOKS: I think the Government will help us. OWENS. God damn the Government. They are not anything but God damned of

and you can tell them I said so if you wish to.



Cherokee County, Beonerdam Township. I, R. P. Brannon, after being duly sworn as the law directs deposes and says that I was dismissed from the Mooresville Cotton Mill on account of my son being on the picket line, so Mr. Moss (overseer of carding and spinning) told me, and I went to Mr. Summers (superintendent) and I ask him why I was dismissed from the mill. He told me at first that he knew nothing about it, then he asked me if I didn't have a boy on the picket line, and I told him I did have a boy on the picket line, but he was a man of his own. Then I ask him if he would give me work again, and Mr. Summers said that he would not work me any more on account of my boy, and Fleetis Moore was standing by and heard the conversation. The day I was laid off was October 15, 1935.

R. P. (his x mark) BRANNON. Sworn to and subscribed before me this 13th day of December, 1935.

V. S. G. PHILLIPS, Notary Public.



Mooresville, N. C. On September 19, 1935, Mr. Ballard, overseer of slashing on the second shift in the Mooresville Cotton Mills, told me:

"I will have to lay you off, for we are going to colored work on your slasher and you can't run it. You go to the daylight boss, Mr. Parks (deceased) and talk with him."

I went to Mr. Parks. Mr. Parks told me that if "that is the way Mr. Ballard feels about you, you will just have to go.' Then Mr. Parks wrote out my time.

I worked for the company for about 12 years; 2 years in the slashing department. I never had any complaints on my work.


MRS. B. A. MILLER COMPLAINT A short while before March 19, 1935, Mrs. Minnie (B. A.) Miller was laid off when the warps ran out on her set of looms. Mrs. Miller asked that she be allowed spare work so she could at least pay her house rent. She knew that she

could do some other kinds of weaving. She was refused spare work and told that she made too many seconds and that her production was not up to the required standard.

Mr. Roberts, superintendent of weaving, looked up her record on reports and found that her work was about on the average with that of other workers on the same kinds of cloth woven. Mr. Roberts made the statement that she had been talking too much. Mrs. Miller said that she had not been warned before about talking.

Mrs. Miller had operated other type of looms prior to doing work like she was doing at the time of her discharge.

Other workers who had not had experience on other looms were taken to other parts of the weave shop and given a chance to work.

Mrs. Miller was told by Mr. Dorster that she had been placed on the reserved list. We feel that Mrs. Miller could have been given another chance.


Mrs. B. A. MILLER.

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COTTON MILLS, MOORESVILLE, N. C. Mr. KELLER. Mr. Schneider, I would suggest that you start asking the questions and, for the purpose of expedition, let us make our questions very brief and very sharp.

Mr. SCHNEIDER. Mr. Matheson, what is your position with the corporation?

Mr. MATHESON. I am president of the corporation.

Mr. SCHNEIDER. How long have you been president of the corporation?

Mr. MATHESON. I have been president since the first of 1935.
Mr. SCHNEIDER. How long has this corporation been in business?

Mr. MATHESON. It has been in business since about 1892 or 1893. I am not positive as to the date. It was 1892 or 1893.

Mr. SCHNEIDER. Has it been reorganized lately from a financial standpoint?

Mr. MATHESON. Yes, sir.
Mr. SCHNEIDER. When was that?

Mr. MATHESON. It was reorganized from a financial standpoint the last time October 28, 1935.

Mr. SCHNEIDER. That was before you got this loan from the Reconstruction Finance Corporation?

Mr. MATHESON. That was at the time we got the money from the Reconstruction Finance Corporation. That actually was not the reorganization period, because we had reorganized just prior to that time. But we got the loan from the Reconstruction Finance Corporation; that is, we got the actual money from them, the first disbursement, October 28, 1935. .

Mr. SCHNEIDER. Just what, as you know them, were the principal reasons for that loan?

Mr. MATHESON. The principal reason for the need of that loan, as set out in the application to the Reconstruction Finance Corporation, was not only to maintain employment at the Mooresville Cotton Mills but we hoped by getting this loan and getting the mill in a better financial position that more people could be put to work. That was the primary purpose of securing this loan, in order to prevent liquida

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