Mr. ARENS. How long have you been employed in the Immigration and Naturalization Service and in what capacity?

Mr. ILGNER. I joined the Service in June of 1936 as a border patrol inspector. In April 1941, I was transferred to the New York district as an immigrant inspector. I believe about 4 years ago I was made an investigator.

Mr. ARENS. What is the nature of the work that you perform? In what unit of the Investigation Section do you function?

Mr. ILGNER. I believe it is called the Legality Status. I interview practically all of the people that come to the Investigations Section for information and determination of status. We often send out a certain number of letters, every day, persons residing in the United States illegally, that we feel we can close the case quickly without outside investigation.

Mr. ARENS. What information do you have respecting the problem of aliens in 3 (1) or 3 (7) status?

Mr. ILGNER. Well, there we don't have very much control. My suggestion there would be to have an officer of the Immigration Service having complete control over all entries under 3 (1) and under 3 (7) in the United States.

Mr. ARENS. To your knowledge, has an alien ever been excluded from a port of entry in the United States as a subversive if he presented a diplomatic passport?

Mr. ILGNER. That wouldn't come under my jurisdiction. I wouldn't know.

Mr. ARENS. Do you have any problems you want to discuss with the subcommittee, on the basis of your experience, to enlighten the subcommittee or to recommend to the subcommittee?

Mr. ILGNER. While you are on the United Nations there, for instance, there is a unit of the Swedish Red Cross that came to the United States, I believe it was the 1st of September.

They were admitted as visitors, for 60 days. We in Investigations started receiving files that these people were overstays around the 1st of January. When the files came to me I got in touch with Mr. Bender, of the United Nations.

Mr. ARENS. Who is he?

Mr. ILGNER. He is the head of the United States mission, I believe, to the United Nations Organization. I asked him about this particular group. He said he didn't know; he had heard of them, but would make an investigation and would call me, which he did.

He said that those people in that particular group were destined to the United Nations Organization. They remained there for 3 days and then were sent to the military in Washington, that any information regarding disposition there would have to come through the Military Section in Washington.

Now, we did find out that they did leave for Korea from San Francisco, but we have been trying to get a list of the people to check back with our records to determine whether or not they all left.

Now that is 5 months that those people could have been roaming the country and nobody knew where they were or who they were. There are possibly a hundred. Who knows how many of those people, of this hundred, were subversive? We don't know.

Mr. ARENS. Is there anything else you want to comment on, to the subcommittee, Mr. Ilgner?

Mr. ILGNER. Well, we have a large coast line here. Take Long Island. We have a border patrol here. I think it would be a good idea to check on some of these boats that come up from Cuba, or possibly make connections with some boat from Cuba. They are moored out there in the sound; they are never inspected. They are not supposed to be inspected, because they don't touch a foreign port. They could make connections 100 miles out in the ocean. Lord knows who they could pick up there and discharge on the shore.

Mr. ARENS. Do you do any free-lance investigating?

Mr. ILGNER. I have been assigned to the office for 4 or 5 years. Mr. ARENS. Is there anything else that you want to discuss with the committee?

Mr. ILGNER. Well, we have a lot of Cubans, we have a lot of Negroes, here. I think that we should have investigators with special knowledge of Puerto Rico, for instance. You interrogate a Cuban, the first thing you know, he is a Puerto Rican, and he is a citizen of the United States. I believe if we had some investigators from Puerto Rico that knew Puerto Rico, they would be able to break down these Cubans. In my opinion, they are a bad element. It is the same with the Negro population.

SUBVERSIVE AND ILLEGAL ALIENS IN THE

UNITED STATES

THURSDAY, MAY 3, 1951

UNITED STATES SENATE,

SUBCOMMITTEE TO INVESTIGATE THE ADMINISTRATION OF
THE INTERNAL SECURITY ACT AND OTHER INTERNAL SECURITY
LAWS, OF THE COMMITTEE ON THE JUDICIARY,

Washington, D. C.

The subcommittee met at 10 a. m., pursuant to recess, in room 424, Senate Office Building, Senator Herbert R. O'Conor presiding. Present: Senator O'CONCR.

Also present: Richard Arens, staff director; Frank W. Schroeder, professional staff member; Edward R. Duffy, and Donald D. Connors, Jr., investigators.

Senator O'CONOR. The subcommittee will be in order.

I will ask you gentlemen, if you will be sworn, please, together. In the presence of Almighty God, do you solemnly swear that the testimony you will give in this hearing will be the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth, so help you God?

Mr. DIANA. I do.

Mr. WIGGINS. I do.

Senator O'CONOR. Will you be good enough to give your names? Mr. DIANA. My name is Stanley A. Diana, Chief of the Detention, Deportation, and Parole Section of the Immigration and Naturalization Service. I have been in the Service for 31 years, and for the period during the war I was in charge of alien enemy paroles, and since the end of hostilities I have been put in charge of the Detentions and Deportations, and Parole.

Senator O'CONOR. And yours, please?

Mr. WIGGINS. My name is W. W. Wiggins, Chief of the Investigation Section, Central Office, Immigration and Naturalization Service. I have been in the Immigration and Naturalization Service 29 years, and I have been Chief of the Investigations Section approximately 3 years.

Mr. ARENS. Mr. Chairman, the purpose of this inquiry is to explore with the witnesses who are present today the administration and operation of section 23 of the Internal Security Act of 1950, which relates to the apprehension and deportation of subversive aliens.

TESTIMONY OF WILFRED W. WIGGINS, CHIEF, INVESTIGATIONS SECTION, ENFORCEMENT DIVISION, UNITED STATES IMMIGRATION AND NATURALIZATION SERVICE

(The witness was previously sworn by Senator O'Conor as follows:)

Senator O'CONOR. In the presence of Almighty God do you solemnly swear that the evidence you will give in this proceeding will be the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth; so help you God?

Mr. WIGGINS. I do.

Mr. ARENS. Now, Mr. Wiggins, you have previously been sworn? Mr. WIGGINS. Yes, sir.

Mr. ARENS. Would you kindly identify yourself by position in the Immigration Service?

Mr. WIGGINS. I am Chief of the Investigations Section, Enforcement Division, Immigration and Naturalization Service.

Mr. ARENS. How long have you been so engaged?

Mr. WIGGINS. Since approximately July 1948, when the Investigations Section was started in the central office.

Mr. ARENS. What was your assignment prior to the time you became Chief of the Investigations Section?

Mr. WIGGINS. Part of that time I was an operations adviser, part of that time I was Chief Supervisor of Naturalization, and prior to coming to the central office I was 18 years in the field in various offices, divisional director, naturalization examiner, and so forth.

Mr. ARENS. Will you kindly give us just a résumé of the structure and organization of your section?

Mr. WIGGINS. In our section in the central office I have an assistant and 10 investigators. We have our section broken into three units. One unit is the Antisubversive Unit. One unit is the Intelligence Unit, and the other unit is the Smuggling Unit.

Mr. ARENS. How many men are employed in each of these three units or how many individuals are employed?

Mr. WIGGINS. I have four investigators and two employees whose titles are examiners in the Subversive Unit.

Mr. ARENS. What is the function of the Subversive Unit?

Mr. WIGGINS. The Subversive Unit supervises all the investigations looking toward the deportation of aliens under the act of October 16, 1918, as amended, and the cancellation of the naturalization of aliens on subversive grounds; the liaison with the various intelligence agencies in Washington and the transmission to the field of all intelligence information relating to subversives received.

We also supervise the issuance of warrants in subversive cases and supervise the hearings in subversive cases, supply the necessary expert witnesses, etc.

Mr. ARENS. Now your work in the Antisubversive Unit of your section is what might be regarded as supervisory over the work in the field in the various district offices; is that not true?

Mr. WIGGINS. That is true.

Mr. ARENS. Your investigators do not get out in the field to actually do investigations?

Mr WIGGINS. Occasionally they do. Occasionally they go out in the field in the more important subversive cases and present the cases to the hearing examiners.