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priation Clause of 1820, relating to Military Half-pay, was Mr. O'Connell observed, that there was cancelled; also, what would have been the increased Expense to the public, for one year, from July, 1850, to July, 1831,
no civilized country in the world but if the Appropriation Clause of 1820 had been restored in England that was not in possession of 1830; also, Copy of a Treasury Minute of 1810; stating some such institution. He therefore rethe necessity of authorizing, in certain cases, the issue of Allowances to Half-pay Officers equal to their Half-pay, to gretted that the hon, and learned member induce them to accept such Civil Offices; similar Returns for St. Mawes had brought the weight of to be furnished for Half-pay Officers of the Navy and his authority against it, in a summary Marines, as far as the same may apply to the Officers of those services.
manner, without assigning his reasons, The usual Sessional Addresses preparatory to closing the He was convinced that the adoption of Petitions presented. By Sir Robert Ferguson, from the the Bill would be a great public benefit. Merchants of Londonderry, concerned in the Linen
Sir Edward Sugden elaimed credit to Trade, praying for the re-enactment of such parts of 6th himself for the purity of the motives by George ith, cap. 122, as relate to the import and inspec. which he was actuated in opposing the tion of Flaxseed. By Mr. M'KINNON, from Inhabitants of Marylabone and Paddington, for a Bill to include measure. He did not dare, however, to the Bull in the provisions of Mr. Martin's Act. By Mr. consent to any change in our legal system Repcal of the duties on Newspapers and Cheap Publica- which he thought erroneous, although he tions, and another Petition from the same Society for the had a sincere desire to correct what could abolition of Slavery. By Mr. Ramsay, from the Malt- be proved to be wrong. He was as little Repeal of the Malt drawback. By Mr. Hunt, from the in love with the abuses of our legal instituInhabitants of Birmingham, for a remission of the tions as the hon. and learned Gentleman, Sentence on Robert Taylor.
and would endeavour to show that he was GENERAL REGISTRY BILL.) Mr. Ewart quite as competent to form an opinion of presented a Petition from the Corporation the merits of any scheme to remedy them. of Liverpool, against the General Registry He knew something of the system of reBill. The petitioners feared the Bill would gistration which existed in Ireland, from greatly tend to increase litigation, and baving had many Appeal cases to argue, cause much inconvenience to persons de- and he believed that it caused a great deal sirous to transfer landed property.
of mischief. Mr. John Campbell said, that undoubt- Mr. John Campbell was convinced, that edly the petition was entitled to consider the objections which had been raised ation, but the petitioners were wholly mis- against the Registration Bill were wholly taken in supposing the Bill would increase owing to ignorance and artful misreprelitigation. One of its great objects was, if sentation. He would, at the commencepersonswould but observe ordinary caution, ment of the next Session, bring forward a entirely to prevent litigation. Under the Bill (it was then too late to persist in it for existing system, it was impossible for any the present Session), and he hoped, in the person, even acting under the most skilful meantime, that a better understanding of advice, to secure himself from litigation. its provisions would remove at least the When a Register Office was established, misimpressions of ignorance. a purchaser, by inspecting the index, Mr. Daniel W. Harvey conceived the could obtain quite as much information object of the Bill to be most desirable, relating to any property as the seller him- but was not then prepared to say whether self possessed.
the present Bill was calculated to attain it. Sir Edward Sugden maintained, that Sir Edward Sugden said, the hon. and many of the provisions of the Bill were learned Member had said the Bill was opof a very injurious tendency-a fact which posed by misrepresentation. He hoped he would be prepared to shew whenever he was not able to any such imputation, the measure came to be discussed. He Mr. John Campbell said, he by no believed that the evils would more than means intended to allude to his hon. and counterbalance the benefits.
kearned friend, but it was true, the Bill Mr. Crampton did not think the hon. had been opposed by the grossest misreand learned Gentleman would be able to presentation. It had been said, the Bill substantiate his objections to the Bill. was to have a retrospective effect, that
Mr. Hunt was of opinion that the Bill title-deeds were to be locked up in a would occasion great inconveniences. mausoleum, and that London Attornies There was no difficulty in making titles by must be consulted in every transaction the present system. He had bought and relating to landed property. These were sold several estates, and had no cause to all gross errors, but the opposition to the complain.
Bill was founded upon such delusions.
Petition to be printed.
tice over monopoly and corruption, and
the hearts of a grateful nation will be CONFIDENCE IN MINISTERS.) Mr. their shield against the taunts and calumCrampton presented a Petition from Gal- nies of an interested Opposition. Carlow, way, praying for the extension of the fran- the county which I have the honour to chise of that town to the Catholic in- represent, long subject to every species of habitants.
oppression, did, on the first gleam of Mr. George Robinson said, he availed liberty, forcibly exhibit in the cause of himself of ihat opportunity, when peti- Reform an enthusiasm which nothing can tions were presented relating to an altera- subdue; for ten days previous to the late tion of the franchise, to declare, that election, all country business ceased-a though he had voted with the majority of bold, good-humoured mien, so characterlast night, he was most anxious to have it istic of Irishmen, was conspicuous. Their understood that his vote of confidence in | motto “ The King, the Bill, and the the present Government was grounded en- People.” The game was quickly up. tirely on the support which they had given 30,000 people assembled on the first day to the Reform Bill. There were many of the election, free from the slightest tenpoints on which he differed from the pre- dency to riot or outrage, and had the poll sent Ministry, and on which he must still proceeded, we should have had, on the continue to differ from them; but no man following day, double that number of who supported them on all points would patriots to witness the triumph of the go along with them more heartily than he Reformers. Sir, this is not a statement would in supporting the Reform Bill. of public feeling highly coloured, nor is it
Mr. Blackney : Sir, I feel anxious to be confined to Carlow; a similar feeling preidentified with my countrymen in an expres- vails in Kilkenny and Wexford; with sion of confidence in the integrity of his these counties I am connected, and as I Majesty's Ministers, and of gratitude forhold in them his Majesty's Commission of their great measure of Reform, carried so the Peace, am well acquainted with the triumphantly through this House, on the character of the people, and I am bold to final success of which mainly depend the say, that there, as in the adjoining counsecurity of our institutions, and the tran- ties of Kildare, the Queen's County, and quillity of our country. Sir, although I Tipperary, the spirit is now such, that the wish to view the unhappy decision in an- constituency would not support any canother place in the most favourable light, didate, whatever may be his other qualificayet I cannot divest myself of the impres- tions, unless he professed himself a decided sion of there being on the part of those Reformer. This being the general feeling in who composed that majority, much of Ireland at this fearful crisis, I conjure his selfish and mercenary feelings. I shall Majesty's Government and this House to briefly state why I consider the measure conciliate that country, if they value the of Reform universally popular in Ireland: connexion. Its people wait with breath. -Hitherto, as a Magistrate, I have wit- less anxiety the result of this all-importnessed scenes of oppression, which bound ant measure; in its details do them jusme in sympathy with the more humble, tice, and you ensure their invaluable atbut not less virtuous class of my unfor- tachment; treat them after the old fashion, tunate countrymen. Their sufferings, their and your tenure is not of value for one privations, were truly afflicting their year's purchase. A faction in that counpatience, their submission, although in a try has long kept an unseemly position, manner unbecoming the national charac- which, as they cannot much longer mainter, were yet, under existing circumstances, tain, so have they become desperate, and beyond all praise. Was this an order of would, in the indulgence of their unhappy things to be endured for ever? Then did prejudices, goad the people to acts of outhis Majesty's Ministers call for the Reform rage, then take fiend-like advantage of the with the sanction of a patriot King. chaos, even at the risk of being involved Virtuous men have, in the eleventh hour, themselves in the general ruin. The Rewisely and boldly determined to save the form question has aroused the nation; it country--they took their stand under happy should be advanced with decision and conauspices; they depended upon the people, fidence. His Majesty's Ministers have and they have not been deceived. Theirs nothing to fear; the people of England will be the triumph of virtue and of jus- I are all with them, and if they but will it,
and treat the empire with common justice, | bludgeons of the police last night, as he then, indeed, the enemies to freedom may was crossing Westminster-bridge, at the prudently retire. I regret, Sir, to have same time with a number of individuals trespassed so far upon the patience of the who were accompanying him (Mr. Hunt) House ; I feel sensible of its indulgence from the Rotunda to the House. Jacob Once more I entreat you to be firm and Wintle had nothing to do with those perconsistent.
sons, and yet he had been beaten on each Sir Richard Vyvyan was surprised that side of his head with the loaded bludgeons his hon. friend (Mr. George Robinson) had of the police, and so deluged with his own deemed it necessary to justify his vote. blood, that he could not identify the perLast night every body knew he could have sons who struck him. He came, in conno reason to support the Ministers, except sequence, to the House for redress. The to promote the Reform Bill—a reason, by hon. Member complained of the bloodthe way, for which he was disposed to thirsty conduct of the police on this occa
sion, to which, he said, that he had himPetition to be printed.
self been an eye-witness.
Mr. Lamb protested against the preDRAWBACK ON SOAP.] Mr. Callaghan sentation of a petition which could do no presented a Petition from the Soap-makers good, and might do harm, when no attempt of the city of Cork, praying that the had yet been made to inquire into the case drawback on soap exported from this of the petitioner before the ordinary tricountry to Ireland may be repealed. He bunals. He could assure the hon. Memwas most desirous to direct the attention of ber that there was no intention to screen Government to the subject, and he now the police when they used improper gave notice, that he should, next Session, violence; at the same time, he must conmove the repeal of this drawback, if it tend, that at all times, and under all cirshould not previously be considered. cumstances, the police must be upheld by
Sir John Newport said, the soap sent the Magistracy and the executive governfrom England was sold considerably under ment. With regard to the mob in ques. the price the Irish manufacturers could tion, he had only to say, that its progress afford to make it at. In his opinion, not a was very properly stopped on Westminsterday should be lost in repealing the draw-bridge last night. The police had, with back.
great difficulty, cleared the streets before Mr. Callaghan said, he was very de- the House ; and just as that was done, at sirous to draw the attention of the House eleven o'clock at night, information reached to one material allegation of the petition. them that a mob of 1,000 persons were He found it therein stated, that in 1824, coming from the Rotunda to the House no trade in soap was carried on between with the hon. member for Preston. The the two countries, but in 1829, the quan- police, therefore, warned the mob that tity imported into Ireland from England, They could not proceed further. The mob was 1,500 tons, and in 1830, 2,900 tons, persisted in their intention to advance. being a larger quantity than was required The police determined to prevent them; for the whole consumption of Ireland; resistance was made to their efforts, and in the natural inference from which was, the struggle, it appeared that this petithat the soap was merely sent across the tioner, Jacob Wintle, was beaten by the channel, and then smuggled back into police. The petitioner might be an innoEngland. The drawback, therefore, oper- cent person ; and if he was, then Gentleated most injuriously in two ways—it men should consider how they collected annihilated the Irish manufacture, and mobs, as the innocent, by their presence, decreased the public revenue. He under were often an assistance and protection to stood there was scarcely a packet came the ill-doers. He would do nothing to from Ireland to England but what had a screen the police, and should be most venture in smuggled soap.
happy to have a full inquiry instituted into Petition to be printed.
this transaction before the ordinary tri
bunals. CONDUCT OF THE POLICE-Case of Sir Robert Inglis entirely agreed with Jacob WintLE.] Mr. Hunt presented a the hon. Member, that the House was not Petition from Jacob Wintle, stating that the tribunal before which cases of comhe had been cruelly beaten by the mon assault ought to be brought. He
must bear testimony to the general good and superintendence on the part of the conduct of the police ; which was a suf- parishes. ficient reason why the House should not Mr. Maberly could not permit this oplisten to such trivial complaints. He did portunity to pass without expressing in not wish to oppose the reception of the the strongest manner his objection to petition, and hoped the hon. Member these discussions. That House was not would withdraw it.
the tribunal for every petty question of Colonel Trench bore testimony to the riot and assault; if there were no other firmness, good conduct, and resolution of tribunal that could render justice to the the police in the transactions of West- parties, it would be well enough to bring minster-bridge, which he accidentally wit. the question here; but he must say, that nessed. He was glad that the hon. Under while there were other tribunals to decide Secretary thought it injudicious to collect such questions, it was an actual waste of great crowds. He recollected a procession time for the House to discuss them. The to the King which was justified by hon. House ought to put down such practices. Gentlemen opposite, and which was He agreed with the right hon. Baronet, neither legal nor judicious. He had heard that this petition ought not to be received. that a similar procession was to take place He was a friend to the popular right of on Wednesday next, and he hoped that petitioning, but this was an abuse of that the observations which the hon. Gen- right. He must take this opportunity, too, tleman had just now made, would tend to of adverting to an unfair practice of the discourage the repetition of a procession hon. member for Preston, in attempting which, though it now only shouted and again to speak after the reply of a Gentlelauded the King, might hereafter turn man who had introduced notice of a Motion. to other and more dangerous purposes. The hon. member for Preston had a right
Sir Robert Peel said, that there was no to do so; but it was a rule of courtesy act in his official life of which he was observed by all other Members of that more proud, than of the institution of the House not to enforce that right; and that Police Force. He hoped, however, that the rule of courtesy had been observed by all House would not encourage the presenta- the Members, until the hon. member for tion of such trumpery petitions, as the Preston came into it. remarks which they elicited from hon. Mr. Hunt did not know that that was Members, would have a tendency to pre- the rule; and he did not recollect one vent that Force from performing its duty instance in which he had done what the in that able and resolute manner which the hon. Member complained of. public tranquillity required.
The petition laid on the Table. Sir George Warrender said, the services of the police were, upon all occasions THE LABOURING Poor.] Mr. Sadler where he had witnessed their conduct, rose to submit to the House his Motion for most exemplary and praiseworthy, and he bettering the condition of the Labouring had great pleasure in thanking the right Poor, and began by observing upon the hon. Baronet who had spoken last, for great importance of the subject, and the having established that force.
necessity of treating it in detail. He thereMr. Hume asked the right hon. Baronet, fore, though very reluctantly, felt himself whether he intended to propose the insti- obliged to divide the subject; and, defertntion of any inquiry as to the compara- ring to another occasion, and the first that tive expense of the old and new system might occur, the consideration of a meaof police.
sure in behalf of the manufacturing poor, Sir Robert Peel thought, that the sub- he should then principally address himself ject referred to by the hon. member for to the state of the agricultural poor, with a Middlesex was a very fit subject for in- view to ameliorating their condition. He quiry. He should have no objection to disclaimed, in taking up these subjects,any have a Committee to overhaul, and pretension to superior benevolence, and in thoroughly examine every species of ex-stating the' reasons which had induced him pense connected with the establishment. to address himself, of late, principally to
Mr. Wilks said, he very much approved such matters, he must express a hope that of a Committee being appointed, but he the House would do justice to his motives in thought the system would be improved, if so acting. The subject, he maintained, was there could be some sort of co-operation of paramount importance, however, com
pared and considered. Paley had asserted | which will never be surpassed while Engit to be the first duty of the Legislature to land shall continue to have a name or a place take care of the poor; and a benevolent | among the nations. Sir, the agricultural writer of a former century had emphati- peasantry are now prostrated : this then is cally declared, that, were a whole Session the time to listen to their just complaints; so employed, it would be spent more to the this is the moment to redress their grievhonour of God and the good of society ances; and it is a duty which sound policy, than on any other subjects in which the as well as humanity, will not allow to be noblest patriots could engage. “ If this,” postponed. Delay will render the attempt continued the hon. Member, were true in more difficult, and at last hopeless. No former times, and under ordinary circum- subject, I will venture to affirm, however stances, how stands the case at the present important in itself or momentous in its reperiod? What is now the condition of your sults, is at all comparable in its urgency or poor; and in the first place of your agricul- magnitude to this the serious and timely tural poor? It is a condition, the consider consideration of the deplorable condition, ation of which you cannot evade if youwould, with a view to its permanent amelioration, of and ought not if you could. Let those the millions of our labouring, but suffering fears which have been but recently allayed, and degraded poor. What, Sir, is that conif, indeed, they can yet bave subsided, dition? I have spoken, I think, of the diffiteach us in time an impressive lesson. It culties of my presentattempt,and I feel them would be a gross and fallacious libel upon most sensibly; but, alas, the making out the character of the industrious peasantry my case, that of the sufferings and degraof England, heretofore the most contented dation of our labouring poor, is not one of and meritorious class of society among us, those difficulties. Many other classes of if the insubordination which has been but society have, it may be hoped, advanced in recently, if yet fully subdued, and which the general career of human happiness and exhibited them at once reckless of crime prosperity: this class, however, has visibly and fearless of its punishment, has not a and lamentably retrograded; till at length cause answerable in its character to the few of those who compose it have anything calamitous consequences it has occasioned. left to surrender, anything further to fear. To doubt this, would be to give way to a We live, Sir, in a period of great changes; grosser infatuation than any to which they but none of them, whether completed or have unhappily yielded. Let me illustrate in progress, and which still agitate society this by one of the most striking and ap- around us, at all equal in anything but palling incidents latterly recorded in our name, the revolution which has taken place history. At a previous and hardly more in the state and condition of our agriculalarming period than we have just witness- tural poor in many parts of the country, ed, a similar spirit broke out among an- and which has hardly left a wreck behind' other important class of our countrymen- of all their former prosperity and happiness. I allude to the time when the Navy of Long placed in an enviable situation comEngland became mutinous. How did you pared with those of any other country, act at that most trying moment? You from them our moralists drew their proofs put down, indeed, and with a strong hand, of the equal dispensations of human happithe alarming insubordination. But that ness--our poets, their loveliest pictures of done, you entered upon that which was simple and unalloyed pleasures our paequally your duty, and one which you triots, their best hopes as to the future desought previously to have discharged, when tinies of the country; while their humble it would have spared the country the fear abodes, the cottages of England, surrounded and shame with which it was then over- by the triumphs of their industry, were as whelmed. You inquired into the wrongs distinguished by their beauty as were their of the British tars; you found them to be inmates for their cheerfulness and contentnumerous and insupportable, and you re- ment. Hope still brightened this humble, dressed them. The rest need not be told. but happy condition, and the prospect of You performed your duty, and they did advancement in life was then ever open to theirs—how nobly, can never be forgotten : the peasant's persevering industry, and the they went forth and wreathed the brow of means were within his reach. I need not their country with fresh and unfading trace this progress step by step; the path of laurels; they won those triumphs which prosperity was open to him, or to those had never previously been equalled, and dearer to him than himself, his children,