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the most useful works which enrich number of communicants received his library.

the sacred elements without a I am, Mr. Editor,

single pause. This is the quickest Your's very faithfully, mode of administering the SacraPRESBYTER. ment to a large congregation that

can be devised; and at the same We are not aware that the ques- time has no appearance of haste

tion of Presbyter has ever been or disorder. If the blessing is relegally determined. Some years peated once aloud to the whole ago a Bishop of Bristol required table, there must be two pauses the clergy of that city to repeat to each party of communicants, the words separately to each and when there are three or four communicant, but this was found hundred communicants, filling impracticable; since it would the communion rails twenty or have protracted the morning ser- thirty times; these pauses will vice so long, as to interfere with together occupy a very consithe afternoon service-would derable time, which is saved by have completely exhausted the adopting Mr. R’s plan-add to officiating ministers, and ren- which we conceive, that if a dered it exceedingly inconveni- minister should ever be brought ent, if not impracticable, to many into the Ecclesiastical Court, of the communicants to attend. Mr. R's plan would admit of These objections were stated to easier defence than that referred the diocesan, and a reference to by Presbyter. made to the departure from Our correspondent will clearly the rubric in the confirmation understand, that we are here service alluded to above. We only giving an opinion. We are not sure whether his lord- believe no person can give an ship withdrew his requisition, authority. The permission of a but the Bristol clergy (than bishop given in writing might whom a

more valuable, and perhaps be pleaded in the Conregular body of pastors do not sistory Court; but we are not exist) deemed themselves justi- sure that it would afford a valid fied in reverting to their original defence in the Court of Arches. practice.

The great point here, as in It appears to us that a min- other cases, is for ministers to ister is justified in delivering the do their duty as in the sight of elements to several


while God, as nearly in accordance to he repeats the words only once : the rubric, as circumstances will but that he is not justified allow; it is not probable that in substituting you for thee. any very serious inconveniences The late Mr. Robinson of Lei

will ensue, even if they should cester, proceeded deliberately be troubled with a litigious or from one communicant to ano- unreasonable parishioner. It is, ther, delivering the bread, to six however, of the utmost importor eight persons while he repeat- ance that a minister should take ed the sentence once. His assist- care and appoint, at least, one ant usually repeated the sentence churchwarden on whom he can once while delivering the cup to fully depend ; since in some four persons, though sometimes it

cases proceedings cannot be inextended to six. The altar rails stituted against a minister in were filled with fresh communi- an Ecclesiastical Court, withcants at the north end, by the out the unanimous consent of time the minister arrived at all the churchwardens. the south, and thus the whole




SIR.-In your Number for De- of the church). All this is well, cember, I read with some surprise and all this might be the case with a communication from G. W. con- a conscientious, if enlightened and taining extracts from two letters liberal, dissenter ; but when the received by him from the late Doctor declares that he not only learned and excellent Dr. Adam reveres the orders of the church, Clarke. There can be no doubt, and highly esteems its hierarchy, whatever, that the venerable Doc- but also that the divine call, on tor was perfectly sincere in all that which he acted in assuming the he expressed; but I humbly con- ministerial functions, never lessceive that whatever • influence' ened in his mind the human call, these recorded sentiments of so such as it exists in the orders of great a man concerning' our Zion, the Church of England, and that may · have over the minds of some he could not with his faith and who are evil-disposed' towards feeling receive any kind of dissenher, the public expression of them ting orders, and also clearly shews will tend to perpetuate a great

that he considers all such orders as error, namely, that the Wesleyan spurious, (for he declares that he is Methodists are not Dissenters from without holy orders, and without the Established Church, and more- pretended holy orders; ) when, I over, that, as a body, they would say, the Doctor declares all this, rather rise up in its defence, than is there not some inconsistency in assist in its subversion. If I am his assuming, I will not say the not mistaken, it is almost univer- office of preaching, but that of sally the practice with this respec- administering the Holy Sacratable body of Christians, to dis- ments as a member of the Church claim the charge of dissent, and to of England. Surely the church claim the title of members of the herself, in her constitution and Church of England. Now I con- government, could not have recogceive that Dr. Clarke's letters will nised the Doctor's claim, and must, not only serve to confirm the if consistent with herself, have Methodists themselves in their pre- regarded his proceedings as unlawtensions, (the sincerity of which I ful, or at least irregular.

This redo not deny,) but also to mislead ver person alleges, as a reason the minds of churchmen on this for his not having received episcosubject. May I therefore be per- pal orders, that not having gone mitted, with the highest respect to through the regular course, he the memory of so excellent a per- could not claim them. But surely son, to offer a few remarks on the he might have known that the Doctor's sentiments, as communi- regular course, (by which, doubtcated by your correspondent ? less he means a university educa

Is there not some inconsistency tion) is not, absolutely and univerin the Doctor's claiming to be sally, a sine qua non,

in a candidate considered a thorough member of for orders ; for according to the the Church of England? He de- canons,


be admitted to the clares that he conscientiously holds, sacred office, without' a degree of its doctrine and sacraments, that he school,' and only on " the testireverences the Liturgy next to the mony of three or four grave minisBible, that he proclaims its doc- ters ; and there was far less trines, and administers its sacra- difficulty in obtaining orders in the ments in the same words, (as those latter method, at the times alluded

to by, the Doctor, than at the pre- worship, at the very times in which sent; I conclude, therefore, that service is performed in the church? there was some neglect on his part; 2. Why do they, mostly, perform and especially as he declares that, divine worship in the same mode as for the reasons above, he could Dissenters, that is offer extempore not, and therefore did not, apply prayer, and not the prayers appoinfor them. But surely in the long ted by the church? 3. Why do course of forty-three years,' during their preachers, not being in episwhich this excellent man's views copal orders, take upon

themselves of episcopal ordination remained to administer the Holy Sacraments : unchanged, he might have been and why do not the members of received with open arms into the their congregations receive at least bosom of the church as a minister; the Sacrament of the Lord's Supper and with the learning and talents in the parish church, always, and which he possessed, have obtained not merely occasionally? We might such preferment as would have ask other questions besides these, opened to him an extensive sphere and connected with these; but I of usefulness. If the Doctor's presume the above will be suffireason for remaining unordained, cient. In short, can true memberwas, that he should not otherwise ship with the Church of England • have the full liberty to preach consist in any thing short of freJesus, wherever he might find quenting her worship statedly and souls perishing for lack of know- regularly, hearing the word of God ledge, as his words seem to imply, from the lips, and receiving the we can only lament that such a Lord's Supper at the hands of her mistake could have been made authorised ministers? The fact is, with respect to the liberty enjoyed the Methodists, though they have by the watchmen of our Zion; or, altogether dissented from the pracadmitting the Doctor's reason to tice of their forefathers, who, though be well founded, there was a fur- they held separate assemblies, did ther inconsistency in his attachment not hold them in Church hours, to episcopal ordination, seeing that whose preachers never administered it abridged him of a privilege, the Sacraments, and who frequented highly important and necessary to the church, and partook of the the usefulness of a Christian min- ordinances at the appointed times, ister.

though, I say, they have dissented On the whole, therefore, Mr. from the practice, yet they retain Editor, however flattering the tes- the claims of their forefathers; but timony of so great a man as the I think, on every sound principle late Dr. Clarke, to the .purity and of church communion, they must excellence of our church, may be, be considered as a part and parcel and undoubtedly is, to all her sin- of the dissenting body.* cere members, I cannot think that in With respect to the attachment, the above letter, he has fairly made or friendly disposition of these our out his claim to be considered a brethren towards the church which thorough member of the Church of they have left, it may perhaps be England ; nor, on the same principles, do I think that the Wesleyan

* Many churchmen might feel disposed Methodists at large, are at all con

to consider our Wesleyan brethren, as

greater dissenters from the Church, than sistent in their professions of com- even the Independents ; for the latter, as munion with it. If they are mem- a body, dissent from the discipline, but not bers of our church, or say, if they

from the doctrine of the Church, whereas • not dissenters’ from it, allow

the former dissent both from her disci

pline, and from her doctrine, inasmuch as me to ask, 1. Why have they they deny the doctrines mentioned in our diyine service in their places of Seventeenth Article.


considered, that as a body, they the demolition of our goodly fabric, are better affected towards us than but why should it be supposed that other classes of dissenters ; but if they have any more concern than it be true that the Wesleyan other dissenters, in maintaining and Methodists are as eager in erecting upholding it. Doubtless some, new places of Worship, and in

nay, even many, of all dissenters, creasing the number of their mem- would deprecate such a catastrophe bers, as any other sect of Christ- as a national evil; but it is one ians, and if there be any foundation thing for some,

or many, and for the numerous complaints of the another thing for “ vast bodies' to parochial clergy, concerning their take such a view of the question. zeal in drawing away the atten- But I must conclude this letter, dants on church to their own places only trusting that what 'has been of worship, we may surely doubt written may be received in a spirit whether the anticipation of Dr. of Christian candour, and earnestly Clarke would be at all realized, praying that the members of that namely, that if the bodies of the Universal Church, of which our various dissenters were to rise up own is but a branch, may ever against the church, the vast bodies “ live in unity and godly love,” of methodists would not hesitate holding the common faith“ in a second to be our light infantry.' unity of spirit, in the bond of I do not mean to insinuate that the

peace, and in righteousness of life.” methodists would aid and assist in

R. F.


ȘIR,-I address you as a guardian statements have been listened to of Christian truth, as one whose and approved, there is but one desire and aim is todefend the faith step to the reception of the papal against the attacks both of liberalism distinction between sins, as mortal and fanaticism. At the same time I and venial,--to the belief that am disposed to believe that the purgatory, penances, &c. may Christian Guardian would be very satisfy for sins, from which the suitably and usefully employed in

blood of Christ could not comarousing Protestants to beware of, pletely cleanse the guilty,—that and purge out the leaven of Popery, no one is now to be rejected for which having been unwarily ad- some particular transgressions, bemitted, is now prejudicially work- cause our bodies are more frail than ing among them

they were formerly. And when Your readers will, I think, un- men have proceeded so far, they hesitatingly acknowledge, or at will soon uphold in credit, accordleast those of them, “ who by rea

ing to the example of the papacy, son of use have their senses exer- the decretals of Gratian,* by which cised to discern both good and the consciences of

may evil,” that all statements which gradually become seared, and impugn the holiness and immuta- themselves be given up to strong bility of the moral law, and the

* Those who desire more particular unalterable obligation of men to information on these papal doctrines and conform all their inward and out- practices may consult the Rev. Josiah ward actions to this law, are but Allport's Translation of an Exposition of too skilful pioneers of the papal

St. Paul's Epistle to the Colossians, by the

Right Rev. J. Davenant, D.D. Lord Bishop army, arrayed though they be in

of Salisbury; a work well deserving the Protestant uniform. When such

perusal of all lovers of sound doctrine.



delusion to believe a lie. Thus propriety of the preceding obserare they brought to consent that vations. the Word of God should be made The Church of Christ militant , of no effect by the traditions of here upon earth, would indeed be

much sounder in doctrine, and far If these things be so, Mr. Editor, less rent with divisions, if the statewe cannot be too much on our ment made by papal doctors in guard against misconceptions and order to defend connivance at sin, misstatements of the nature of namely, that our bodies are more Divine law, and of human obliga- frail than they were formerly, had tion. Whilst the purity, excel- never been allowed by protesters lency, and authority of the Divine against popery improperly to inlaw are clearly stated and firmly fluence their reasonings. In some upheld, we do not handle the word investigations the consideration of of God deceitfully, but rely only human depravity and of the opórqua on the obedience and death of o apkos (the fleshly mind) which Christ, by which the law was remaineth even in the regenerate, magnified and made honourable, has a legitimate influence on our and are able by principles drawn reasonings, in others, its influence from the doctrine which is accord- ought in no wise to be admitted, ing to godliness, to urge the ne- and if it be admitted, the effect cessity of good works. But if on must be baneful. Of this latter the other hand our views of this kind are investigations on the nasubject are built on the opinions ture of Divine Law, and of human of men, and have been engendered obligation, and it is by following by a spurious charity which con- papal example in these matters, founds the mercy of a Being infi- that too many Protestants have nite in wisdom and justice, with the imbibed and promulged those erroweak and blameworthy indulgence neous views referred to above. of a human parent, then are we in Those views, I mean, which so imminent danger of making ship- disorder the mental vision, that wreck of faith and of a good con- men thus affected, walking onwards science on the rocks either of step by step, without knowing popery, antinomianism, pelagian- whither they go,

whither they go, are at length ism, or socinianism. The least irrevocably entangled in the intrideparture from the path of truth cate meshes of the papal net. cannot be innocent: it will be Alas! the spirit of this stateattended with consequences in a ment, that our bodies are more frail greater or less degree injurious to than they were formerly, improthe real interest of the individual, perly influences the preaching of a as well as to that of others, whose part of the clergy of the Church of interest he is bound to promote. England, and the Theological views Perhaps, Mr. Editor, you will of many both in the Church of allow one who has had intercourse England and among the dissenwith various denominations of ters. The former expressly affirm Christians, to publish his opinion, in their public teaching that God, that one fruitful source of errors on who is and can never cease to be, the nature of the divine law and of the Governor of all his rational human obligation is a determination creatures, whether angels, men, or to cleave to received hypotheses. devils, does not require perfection This I think might be shewn with- of us, which must mean, I think, out much difficulty. However, that we are not obliged to conform if a few additional remarks may all our words, thoughts, and actions be admitted, they will tend, I hope, to His holy law. The latter mainto establish the reasonableness and tain that man must have something

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