Mrs. ZILBERBLATT. Yes, sir. The CHAIRMAN. How much? Mrs. ZILBERBLATT. Yes, sir. The CHAIRMAN. And are you working? Mrs. ZILBERBLATT. Yes, sir. The CHAIRMAN. What do you make a week? Mrs. ZILBERBLATT. $25. The CHAIRMAN. What do you work at? Mrs. ZILBERBLATT. I am working on pocketbooks and bags. Mrs. ZILBERBLATT. Yes, sir. The CHAIRMAN. You have been working at that regularly? The CHAIRMAN. Did you ever send him to the consul in Cuba? Mrs. ZILBERBLATT. No; I did not; I went myself. I wanted advice from the American consul, and I asked how long it was going to take for my husband to come in, and he said from six months to a year, because Cuba had quite a small number of visas, but he was called in 1929. Sixty-nine visas were given out. He was the seventieth, and his chance was gone until 1930, because they did not give out any visas since 1930. Mr. JENKINS. Do you know that your husband would not come under the Cuban quota? He was Mrs. ZILBERBLATT. He came under the Poland quota. called not only once, he was every two weeks, or every three weeks. The CHAIRMAN. That is what I would like to know something about. How many times was he called, can you tell me? Mrs. ZILBERBLATT. He was called about 35 or 40 times. He was called just last Saturday. The CHAIRMAN. Did he get a visa? Mrs. ZILBERBLATT. No. Mr. FREE. How long had you known your husband? Mrs. ZILBERBLATT. We were raised together and went to school 10 years together in Poland. Mr. MILLARD. What was it that she said? Mrs. ZILBERBLATT. We were raised together and went to school 10 years in Poland. The CHAIRMAN. You were raised together? Mrs. ZILBERBLATT. Yes, sir. The CHAIRMAN. Speak louder, so the gentlemen of the committee can hear you. Mrs. ZILBERBLATT. We were raised together and we went to school together; I went to school with him. Mr. FREE. How do you know that he was called last Saturday? Mrs. ZILBERBLATT. I just received a letter this morning from him. Mr. FREE. Who do you live with? Mrs. ZILBERBLATT. I live with my sister. Mr. FREE. A sister? Mrs. ZILBERBLATT. Yes, sir. Mr. FREE. Have you any other relatives here? Mrs. ZILBERBLATT. I have a brother. Mr. FREE. A brother? Mrs. ZILBERBLATT. Yes, sir. Mr. FREE. You all live together? Mrs. ZILBERBLATT. We live in one house, but different apartments. Mr. FREE. You all contribute to the household expenses? Mrs. ZILBERBLATT. No; my brother makes a nice living, because his business is very stable. Mr. FREE. You pay board? Mrs. ZILBERBLATT. Yes; I pay board. Mr. FREE. Have you sent your husband any money? Mrs. ZILBERBLATT. I did not send him any. The CHAIRMAN. Speak up, so the committee can hear you. Mrs. ZILBERBLATT. I did not send him any. My husband is by himself and they keep on calling him these days, every month, or every two weeks or three. Mr. FREE. And, what do you The CHAIRMAN. Let her answer the question. The CHAIRMAN. Very well. Mr. FREE. What does he do? Mrs. ZILBERBLATT. He is a salesman, dry goods. Mrs. ZILBERBLATT. No; I sent him last year; he was called in December, he was called into the consul's office, and the consul said that if he could prove that he had a thousand dollars cash, so that he would not become a public charge, he would give him the visa. That is, so that he could come to the United States and not be a public charge, so I sent him a thousand dollars and he was refused then, as likely to become a public charge. Mr. FREE. If he comes here, are you going to support him? Mrs. ZILBERBLATT. Yes, sir; and, as was said before, like one of the girls said, if a woman loves her husband, she can support him if she gets $25; you can support your husband if you get $100, and $50, and $25, because if you love your husband, you can live for $10, the two of you; if it is best. Mr. FREE. I have been married for 26 years and I find that it takes a little more than love to provide for a family. Mr. CABLE. Just a minute. Mr. PALMISANO. Is it not true that there are many men who are married at the present time who are not making $25 a week? Mr. FREE. Yes. Mr. CABLE. Do you belong to this organization of wives here, that three or four hundred ladies seem to belong to, or anything similar to it? Mrs. ZILBERBLATT. I beg your pardon. Mr. FREE. How was this brought to your attention, this hearing, to-day? Mrs. ZILBERBLATT. I beg your pardon. Mr. FREE. How did you happen to get here to-day? Mrs. ZILBERBLATT. I came to-day. Mr. FREE. Who suggested it? Mrs. ZILBERBLATT. Who suggested that I come to the hearing? Mr. FREE. Yes. Mrs. ZILBERBLATT. I saw it in the papers. Mr. FREE. In the papers? Mrs. ZILBERBLATT. Yes. Mr. FREE. What papers? Mrs. ZILBERBLATT. It was altogether in the city, and these wives Mr. FREE. No; no. I am asking what what papers you saw the notice of this hearing in. Mrs. ZILBERBLATT. What papers? Mr. FREE. Yes; what papers. Mrs. ZILBERBLATT. All of the papers. Mr. FREE. What papers? Mrs. ZILBERBLATT. The American; the New York American. Mrs. ZILBERBLATT. Yes. Mr. FREE. What kind of notice did it have; did it tell you to come down here? Mrs. ZILBERBLATT. I saw it in the papers, but we were all, we are all citizen-wives, a group of citizen-wives that are here. Mr. FREE. Then, your organization notified you to come here to-day? Mrs. ZILBERBLATT. Yes, sir. Mr. MILLARD. Do you remember which? Mr. GREEN. I do not think that she understands. The CHAIRMAN. I think that we are just taking up a lot of time. What difference does it make? She is here. Is Mrs. Bradfeld here? Mrs. BRADFELD. Yes, sir. STATEMENT OF MRS. GUSSIE ROSENKRANZ BRADFELD, NEW YORK CITY The CHAIRMAN. Give your full name to the reporter. Mrs. BRADFELD. Mrs. Gussie Rosenkranz Bradfeld, 24 St. Marks Place, New York City. The CHAIRMAN. And, you are an American citizen? Mrs. BRADFELD. Yes, sir. The CHAIRMAN. And, when were you married? Mrs. BRADFELD. October 3, 1930. The CHAIRMAN. And where? Mrs. BRADFELD. In Poland. The CHAIRMAN. And, did you know your husband before? Mrs. BRADFELD. Yes, sir; we were sweethearts before I came over the first time. The CHAIRMAN. How many years ago was that? Mrs. BRADFELD. That was in 1920. The CHAIRMAN. And, when was it that you married him? Mrs. BRADFELD. Pardon me, I came over in 1921. We knew each other since 1920. The CHAIRMAN. Since 1920? Mrs. BRADFELD. Yes, sir. The CHAIRMAN. When you were married, did you make out a petition to the department? Mrs. BRADFELD. At Warsaw, I made one out at Warsaw. The CHAIRMAN. You made a petition out where? Mrs. BRADFELD. In the consul's office. The CHAIRMAN. In the consul's office? Mrs. BRADFELD. Yes; that is right. The CHAIRMAN. Who did you see, the consul? Mrs. BRADFELD. I saw one of the gentlemen who told me he was the second consul, and I asked how long it would be. I was there with my husband and I asked how long it would take my husband to come over and he said about 3 or 4 or 6 months at the most. The CHAIRMAN. Have you any savings? Mrs. BRADFELD. That is right; I have over $4,000. The CHAIRMAN. How much? Mrs. BRADFELD. Over $4,000. The CHAIRMAN. Speak louder. I want the gentlemen of the committee to hear you. Mrs. BRADFELD. I am sorry. Mr. FREE. How much? Mrs. BRADFELD. Over $4,000. The CHAIRMAN. In what bank? Mrs. BRADFELD. In the Bowery Savings, $3,056.48; the Dry-Dock Savings, $553.91; and the Postal Savings, $470, or $4,080.39. The CHAIRMAN. And, you are working besides? Mrs. BRADFELD. Yes; I work in an office. The CHAIRMAN. How much do you make? Mrs. BRADFELD. $32 a week, and I worked there ever since I started to work. The CHAIRMAN. How many years? Mrs. BRADFELD. Well, about eight years. Mr. FREE. She said she worked? Mrs. BRADFELD. I said I worked there since I started to work. The CHAIRMAN. Your husband is not in the quota? Mrs. BRADFELD. He was called, and refused a visa on account of a public charge. The CHAIRMAN. Did the consul know that you have over $4,000 in the bank? Mrs. BRADFELD. I believe I had over $3,000 then. The CHAIRMAN. Since you last reported you have saved the balance, but at that time the consul knew that you had, and you had evidence of, $3,000? Mrs. BRADFELD. That is right. Mr. CABLE. You have earned that money yourself? Mrs. BRADFELD. Yes, sir. Mr. FREE. How much has he got? Mrs. BRADFELD. He hasn't anything. He is making enough for himself. Mr. FREE. What is his business? Mrs. BRADFELD. He is a mechanical dentist. Mr. FREE. This lady testified the other day? Mrs. BRADFELD. No, sir. Mr. FREE. There was a lady here that testified the other day, and I want to ask her some questions. The CHAIRMAN. I will call her. Mr. FREE. I have got to leave in a few minutes. Would you let her go on now? The CHAIRMAN. Yes. Mr. MILLARD. Who do you support? 104058-32 4 Mr. MILLARD. Who do you support? Mrs. BRADFELD. I am an only child. Mr. FREE. I did not hear you. Mrs. BRADFELD. I am an only child, and I have my parents here and I do not support them at all. The CHAIRMAN. You do not support your parents? Mrs. BRADFeld. No. The CHAIRMAN. Your parents take care of you? Mrs. BRADFELD. Well, they even support me; rather, I mean, I receive my money, more than, or almost $20 a week. outside expenses. It is just my The CHAIRMAN. In other words, you do not pay any board? Mrs. BRADFELD. Very little; sometimes three or four dollars, I give my mother. The CHAIRMAN. The rest you save, put in the bank? Mrs. BRADFELD. I save the other, other than buying my clothes, my dresses. Mr. FREE. You are going to support your husband? Mrs. BRADFELD. Well, surely; why not; why can't I support him on that amount; and I make a very nice salary? Mr. CABLE. What does your father do? Mrs. BRADFELD. He manages a restaurant. The CHAIRMAN. Thank you very much. Mrs. BRADFELD. I have a statement that I gave. The CHAIRMAN. Did you give all of these statements to consul's office; have you submitted that proof? Mrs. BRADFELD. I gave him only $3,000 and then I have not sent anything since. The CHAIRMAN. You have since proved that you are working, making money? Mrs. BRADFELD. I certainly have; I sent a statement myself. Mrs. BRADFELD. It was, and all of my statements. Mr. FREE. When? The CHAIRMAN. When was it last investigated? Mrs. BRADFELD. My investigation was made in New York City. Mr. FREE. When? Mrs. BRADFELD. November 19, 1931. Mr. FREE. Did your husband get a visa? Mrs. BRADFELD. I have not heard anything. They told me nothing. He said that he was not authorized to say anything for the department. Mr. MILLARD. Do you know whether there has been any investigation since the last order that has been referred to was issued? The CHAIRMAN. She said that there was another investigation in New York. Mrs. BRADFELD. No; no investigation since this investigation, since this investigation in November, 1931. The CHAIRMAN. And, he was denied the request again? Mrs. BRADFELD. Yes. A gentleman by the name of Burns (?) said that he did not have any authority to say anything, just report. Mr. MILLARD. You have not received a report? Mrs. BRADFELD. No; he has not told me. He did not tell me whether he would get his visa or not. |