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SPECIAL SUBCOMMITTEE ON INVESTIGATIONS
HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES

NINETY-FOURTH CONGRESS

FIRST SESSION

52-900

MARCH 6, 11, 12, 13, AND APRIL 14, 1975

Printed for the use of the Committee on International Relations

U.S. GOVERNMENT PRINTING OFFICE

WASHINGTON: 1976

HAM 1077

COMMITTEE ON INTERNATIONAL RELATIONS

THOMAS E. MORGAN, Pennsylvania, Chairman

CLEMENT J. ZABLOCKI, Wisconsin

WAYNE L. HAYS, Ohio

L. H. FOUNTAIN, North Carolina
DANTE B. FASCELL, Florida
CHARLES C. DIGGS, JR., Michigan
ROBERT N. C. NIX, Pennsylvania
DONALD M. FRASER, Minnesota
BENJAMIN S. ROSENTHAL, New York
LEE H. HAMILTON, Indiana
LESTER L. WOLFF, New York
JONATHAN B. BINGHAM, New York
GUS YATRON, Pennsylvania
ROY A. TAYLOR, North Carolina
MICHAEL HARRINGTON, Massachusetts
LEO J. RYAN, California

CHARLES WILSON, Texas

DONALD W. RIEGLE, JR., Michigan

CARDISS COLLINS, Illinois
STEPHEN J. SOLARZ, New York
HELEN S. MEYNER, New Jersey
DON BONKER, Washington

WILLIAM S. BROOMFIELD, Michigan
EDWARD J. DERWINSKI, Illinois
PAUL FINDLEY, Illinois
JOHN H. BUCHANAN, JR., Alabama
J. HERBERT BURKE, Florida
PIERRE S. DU PONT, Delaware
CHARLES W. WHALEN, JR., Ohio
EDWARD G. BIESTER, JR., Pennsylvania
LARRY WINN, JR., Kansas

BENJAMIN A. GILMAN, New York
TENNYSON GUYER, Ohio

ROBERT J. LAGOMARSINO, California

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CONTENTS

WITNESSES

CAMBODIA EMERGENCY

McCloskey, Hon. Paul N., Jr., a Representative in Congress from
the State of California.

304

Murtha, Hon. John P., a Representative in Congress from the
State of Pennsylvania---

302

CAMBODIA SITUATION (FULL COMMITTEE)

Ingersoll, Hon. Robert S., Acting Secretary of State---

399

VIETNAM EMERGENCY

Summary of negotiating efforts on Cambodia.

247

Excerpt from New York Times, Thursday, March 6, 1975, concerning Assist-
ant Secretary Habib's statement on negotiating efforts__

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THE CAMBODIA-VIETNAM DEBATE

THURSDAY, MARCH 6, 1975

HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES,

COMMITTEE ON INTERNATIONAL RELATIONS,
SPECIAL SUBCOMMITTEE ON INVESTIGATIONS,

Washington, D.C.

The subcommittee met at 10 a.m. in room 2172, Rayburn House Office Building, Hon. Lee H. Hamilton (chairman of the subcommittee) presiding.

Mr. HAMILTON. The meeting of the subcommittee will come to order. Today the Special Subcommittee on Investigations commences its 1975 hearings with an inquiry into U.S. policies toward and involvement in Indochina. In this hearing and others which may follow, the subcommittee will grapple with several of the large questions surrounding our continuing involvement in Southeast Asia and the current supplemental aid requests for Cambodia and Vietnam for fiscal year 1975.

With the drama of the 5-year civil war in Cambodia being played out closer and closer to the capital, Phnom Penh, each day, it is clear that the wounds and trials of the Cambodian people will not end soon or quickly regardless of how the fighting develops.

In Vietnam there has been decreasing evidence that the Paris accords, signed 2 years ago, can offer more than a temporary respite. Since the accords were signed there have been between 200,000 and 300,000 official casualties and the prospects for more serious conflict in 1975 appear a certainty.

Behind these depressing signs of more conflict in Indochina stands a continuing American policy of military and economic support for two particular governments in Cambodia and Vietnam and for a specific approach to peace in that area-an approach that is yet to produce peace.

We want today to concentrate on the situation in Cambodia in particular but current supplemental aid requests for Cambodia and Vietnam must be viewed within the broader context of what we seek to accomplish in Indochina in the next several years, how we expect to achieve our goals, what are our interests there, what commitments we have and what benefits we are getting in return for the continued massive amounts of aid the executive branch is expecting Congress to authorize and appropriate. No matter what happens to present and future aid requests before Congress, it can never be said that we abandoned Indochina, not after the taking of over 50.000 American lives there and the expenditure of over $150 billion Vietnam alone. Our commitment of nearly $2 billion to Cambodia since 1970 is also no small figure.

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