And unless you take the position that the U.N., the EU and the American position-which has been the American position for decades should be changed, then I do not think anybody can have any issue with the language of the first subsection.

The resolution then goes on to commend the U.N. Secretary General and then the individual actors, both Colin Powell and Tom Weston-I do not think anybody can have any issue with Tom Weston who has devoted his life to this thing-it goes on to commend them for their creative efforts.

It then expresses the appreciation to the Prime Minister of Turkey and the Prime Minister of Greece. And then it welcomes the confidence-building measures announced by both sides. Period.

In fairness, then, it applauds the decision of the U.S. Government and the EU to initiate financial measures to end the isolation of the Turkish Cypriot side. How is that taking sides?

The Greek side is in the EU. There is no financial measures to be given to the Greek Cypriot side. The Turkish side is outside the EU. So that is why they are being offered some financial incentives for having voted for the plan.

If the world takes the attitude, with all due respect, of the opposition here, why would the Turkish Cypriots even negotiate ever again? Because here they are, they supported what they were supposed to, and they have gotten nothing. Now we are going to take what little they may get away, if that was the prevailing view?

So, to argue that this resolution somehow prevents future progress, with all due respect, seems not to reflect the terms of the resolution.

And I would beg the three Members of the Subcommittee that seem to have reservations, to possibly reconsider. Because this is about as bland a resolution that I could ever imagine being drafted up on Cyprus without offending either side.

It simply just congratulates people for voting, and recognizing which Prime Ministers did which. This is equal to Turkey and Greece. And Greece is in the EU, and the Turkish Cypriots are not. Thank you.

Mrs. DAVIS. Mr. McCotter?

Mr. McCOTTER. Yes. As I have been begged to reconsider, let me just say I am not going to reconsider.

In the first resolution in the third whereas clause, I think you have the meat of the matter. It says, "whereas in separate referenda," blah, blah, blah, “Turkish Cypriots voted to support the United Nations-sponsored plan, but 75 percent of Greek Cypriots voted to reject the plan

Under the second

Mr. WEXLER. If I may

Mr. MCCOTTER. Under the nature of a substitute, which we have in front of us, that portion was deleted and changed to 65 percent Turkish Cypriots.

It seems to me that the first one was a more honest attempt of what we are after. Because if I have two children and one son gets A's and the daughter gets C's, and all I do is praise the son who gets A's, the daughter who gets C's knows I am not happy with her. I think that we are fooling ourselves that the Greek Cypriots will not notice the difference, that we are praising people for their vote.

It seems that if we want to get something done today, the clause that is offensive to some of us should be removed, take out “65 percent of Turkish Cypriots" in the amendment of the nature of a substitute.

Mr. WEXLER. Would you yield, if you do not mind?

Mr. McCOTTER. I am done.

Mr. WEXLER. If I may just respond quickly so everyone understands, we did not want there to be anything in the resolution that would be critical of the Greek Cypriot side. That is why it was taken out.

I mean, I think you are arguing an impossible position for us. If we put in what might be perceived as critical, then I would agree with Mrs. Lee, we would have taken sides.

Ms. LEE. Would the gentleman yield for 1 second, please?
Mrs. DAVIS. Mr. McCotter, would you yield to Ms. Lee?
Mr. McCOTTER. Yes.

Ms. LEE. Thank you very much.

I appreciate the gentleman's comments and response. But I think what I see and how I see this is-one is that it would not have been necessarily critical; it would have been the reality of the fact that, first of all, 75 percent of Greek Cypriots did not find the Annan Plan as a historic opportunity. And that, to me, is a very glaring void.

It is completely, I think, one-sided in the sense that if you are talking about a process by which this Subcommittee is trying to send a message in terms of seeking reunification of Cyprus, then I do not believe we need to congratulate one side or the other. We need to have a resolution that makes sense to try to bring both sides together to move forward.

Mr. WEXLER. Madam Chair

Mrs. DAVIS. Mr. McCotter, do you yield back your time?

Mr. McCOTTER. As a practical matter too, in many ways what Ms. Lee said, if you have a group of people who voted 75 percent against something and you need the Turkish and the Greek Cypriots to come together in an agreement, you run the risk-through a resolution such as this, whether by commission or omission-of making the one side dig their heels in and make it far harder for them, feeling persecuted, to come to any kind of decision or any accommodation. I think it is counterproductive.

And as for the argument of why the Turkish army is there or not, as an Irish Catholic whose grandfather was born in Antrim County, I understand the other side of that coin too.

I yield back.

Mrs. DAVIS. Thank you, Mr. McCotter.

I yield to Mr. Wexler.

Mr. WEXLER. If the Members will indulge me for a second. I would be happy to offer an amendment to put back the language you just spoke about that you think would make it more honestI would be happy to offer an amendment to do that. We actually thought we were making it a more acceptable resolution by taking it out. But if it is, in fact, more acceptable, then we would be happy to put it back in.

Mr. McCOTTER. If the gentleman will yield?

That is more honest in terms of the intent of the resolution, but it does not make it more acceptable to me. However, it would have made it more honest.

Mr. WEXLER. Well, I took Mrs. Lee at her word.

Ms. LEE. No, there are other issues that are troublesome in this resolution. In addition-I was citing one example. But, for instance, there is some language here that talks about-it is in section 1, clause 5-additional border crossings. And again, I do not believe that there are any borders in Cyprus. That implies that you have two different states.

So there are other issues in the resolution that I would want to see addressed. I would not be prepared to vote for it even if one or two of the items were amended out.

Mr. WEXLER. If I may, Madam Chair, just reclaiming the time, Mrs. Lee brings up a concern. That's the Greek position that you apparently may take objection to. We were putting in the Greek Cypriot position. That is the offer, the actions they have taken. We were being even-handed. We were saying what the Turkish side has done and what the Greek side has done. And I do not know how we could possibly

Ms. LEE. Well, I am not trying to take either side on this.
Mr. WEXLER. Nor does the resolution.

Ms. LEE. I am just saying my opinion on the language in terms of the use of "border" as a word, it implies two different states. And I would object to that being in there, again as trying to play a positive role in terms of being objective in this.

Mr. WEXLER. Okay. Just to explain, though, that is the Greek Cypriot position, not the Turkish Cypriot position.

Ms. LEE. I understand. I understand.

Mr. WEXLER. And we were offering it in fairness.

Ms. LEE. I understand. But in fairness, I am not taking one position or the other.

Mr. WEXLER. Okay.

Mrs. DAVIS. The question is on the amendment offered by Mr. Engel. The question is on the amendment to the amendment in the nature of a substitute. All those in favor say, "Aye." Opposed, "No." The ayes have it.

The question now is on the amendment in the nature of a substitute as amended. All those in favor say, "Aye." Opposed, "No." Mr. BURTON. Want to take a rollcall vote, Madam Chair?

Mrs. DAVIS. The amendment by Mr. Engel was adopted.

The amendment in the nature of a substitute as amended failed, I believe.

Do we need a rollcall vote?

Mr. BURTON. Yes, I would like a rollcall vote.

Mrs. DAVIS. A rollcall vote is requested on the amendment to the

Mr. McCOTTER. On adoption to put in front of us the amendment?

Mrs. DAVIS. Exactly, yes. This is not passage of the resolution. This is putting the amendment in the nature of a substitute as amended before us to vote.

Mr. BURTON. We can tally up

Mrs. DAVIS. As I heard it, the noes had it.

Mr. McCOTTER. No.

Mrs. DAVIS. The noes did not have it?

Mr. McCOTTER. I was voting “yes.”

Mrs. DAVIS. Okay, there seems to be some confusion. We will take that vote over again.

The question is on

Mr. ENGEL. I am sorry. Parliamentary inquiry, I guess.

Is this final passage of the amendment

Mrs. DAVIS. No.

Mr. ENGEL [continuing]. Or is this the ability for you to substitute your amendment for the original wording?

Mrs. DAVIS. This is substituting the amendment in the nature of a substitute as amended with your amendment, to put it before us in order to vote on it.

Mr. ENGEL. Okay. So there still has to be one vote for final passage?

Mrs. DAVIS. Yes.

The question is on the passage of the substitute as amended. All those in favor say, "Aye." Opposed, "No."

Mr. ENGEL. I am still confused. I am sorry.

Mrs. DAVIS. You are not voting to report it out of Committee. You are voting on passing the substitute as amended to put it before us in order to vote to report it out of Committee.

The amendment in the nature of a substitute is adopted.

And the question occurs now on the final passage of the resolution, as amended, to be reported favorably to the Full Committee. All those in favor say, "Aye." Opposed, "No."

Mr. BURTON. Rollcall.

Mrs. DAVIS. A rollcall vote is requested.

Call the roll.

Ms. HALLOCK. Mr. Burton?

Mr. BURTON. Aye.

Ms. HALLOCK. Mr. McCotter?

Mr. McCOTTER. No.

Ms. HALLOCK. Mrs. Davis?

Mrs. DAVIS. Aye.

Ms. HALLOCK. Mr. Wexler?

Mr. WEXLER. Aye.

Ms. HALLOCK. Mr. Engel?

Mr. ENGEL. No.

Ms. HALLOCK. And Mrs. Lee?

Ms. LEE. No.

Mr. BURTON. That is what I told you. We could have stopped this an hour ago.

Ms. HALLOCK. Chairman Davis, it is tallied up as 3-3.

Mrs. DAVIS. The motion is defeated.

And that is the end of the markup. The Subcommittee is now adjourned.

[Whereupon, at 2:40 p.m., the Subcommittee was adjourned.]