sive security turndown was very minimal. It was under 2 percent. This is the worldwide average.

I don't think these figures are meaningful.

Senator DIRKSEN. Give us a general statement on it and if you have something to supply for the record, that will be all right. (The information referred to follows:)

Percentage breakdown of refusals under Public Law 203 based on reports received through Apr. 15, 1955

Mr. MCLEOD. The security turndown has been very small.
The health turndown is around 41 percent of the total.

Ineligibility is the next factor, and then for labor and illiteracy and criminal security makes up the total.

Were

Senator DIRKSEN. You may want to supplement that with current figures. Now, those on which action was canceled, 2,089. those entirely where the visa was not qualified for?

Mr. MCLEOD. Yes. You will note the largest total is in Germany, 759; the next largest is in Italy; the next is in Austria.

The majority of those are people who simply decided not to leave. But there are others, I mean there are deaths, and they migrate to another country or something of that kind.

COMMENTS ON PROPOSED LEGISLATIVE PROVISIONS

Senator DIRKSEN. Now, there was some hint that perhaps there ought to be some changes in the act to facilitate administration. Are you prepared to now say a little something about the suggested changes?

Mr. MCLEOD. We made recommendations in hearings before the House committee which I believe are still executive. They have a confidential committee print over there that Congressman Walter had the other day when he testified.

Senator ELLENDER. On page 5 of the statement he indicates that he can operate under the law, that there is no need of any change; is that right?

Mr. MCLEOD. That is possible. We would like to see some changes. We are advocating that the orphan age be raised from 10 to 12.

Senator DIRKSEN. This is on page 9 of the third semiannual report, which is dated February 8, 1955. At the bottom of the page it says:

The Refugee Act is workable in its present form and can be successfully administered during the life of the act. Experience gained in carrying out indicates, however, that certain changes would facilitate its administration and would result in the admission of more nearly the total number of aliens contemplated by the act.

Now, there is just one paragraph and no detail and that is in your third semiannual report.

Senator KILGORE. That is also in the statement on page 5.

Mr. MCLEOD. I think I indicated that we would like to see this double definition of escapee and expellee removed. We would like to see that that be a person instead of a refugee.

Senator ELLENDER. You stated on page 5 of your presentation that the act could be administered by you as it now stands.

Mr. MCLEOD. That is true, but it would be easier to do if we had the changes.

Senator ELLENDER. It is your judgment, though, that with the amount you are now asking for, and then later to carry on to September 1956, that you can comply with the law and get all those that are entitled to come in under that act?

Mr. MCLEOD. Yes.

Senator ELLENDER. I hope that we never have to reenact that or put on the statute book any additional special legislation in the line of immigration.

Senator KILGORE. I want to ask you a question.

EFFECT OF CHANGE IN DEFINITION OF REFUGEE

What would be the effect of changing the definition from "refugee” to "person"?

Mr. MCLEOD. In my judgment a person who had come out from the East to the West and had entered the economy and become selfsupporting would then be eligible and in my judgment is a more desirable alien from the fact that he has demonstrated that he can get in a strange economy and take care of himself.

I am fearful that the people who are in these camps by the fact that they are in the camps, have contracted diseases which make them ineligible that is the primary reason-I just fear there are not enough people in the camps who are in the refugee category to fill it up even if we get the assurances.

TOTAL LOANS MADE FROM TREASURY ALLOCATION

Senator DIRKSEN. Now, how many loans have been made out of the loan fund?

Mr. MCLEOD. We have made 1 loan of $25,000.

Senator DIRKSEN. Those loans are made to agencies to facilitate their transportation?

Mr. MCLEOD. Inland transportation.

Senator DIRKSEN. The amount is limited to arrival from port of entry to the place of resettlement, wherever it may be?

Mr. MCLEOD. Yes.

Senator DIRKSEN. So that one loan has been made?

Mr. MCLEOD. Yes.

Senator DIRKSEN. Now, how is the transportation handled? What is the mechanics after they arrive if they are supposed to go to Hastings Nebr., or Duluth, Minn.?

Mr. MCLEOD. If they are a client of voluntary agencies the agencies loan that money and they repay the agency and the agency repays the Government.

My understanding is that this system was used under the DP Act and that the agencies have repaid the loans almost 100 percent.

FINANCING OF OVERSEAS TRANSPORTATION OF MIGRANTS

Senator DIRKSEN. Now, the act gives the State Department authority to make financial arrangements either with a foreign government or with an intergovernmental committee on European migration as the act says, for the purpose of financing the overreas transportation of persons who may be issued visas under this act.

Can you give us a little more amplification of what arrangements have been made with foreign governments, with ICEM?

Mr. MCLEOD. We have relied on ICEM wholly on this. We feel that our contribution of $10%1⁄2 million this year to their operating budget, which is around $40 million, is able to take care of any contingencies that arise.

Some of the governments in this program, Holland, for example, pay the immigrant's transportation.

Senator DIRKSEN. Some foreign governments do?

Mr. MCLEOD. Yes. Others contribute substantially to their transportation. But they all are members of ICEM and they prefer to do it through ICEM.

So we have not entered into any bilateral arrangements for that

reason.

REQUEST FOR ADDITIONAL PERSONNEL

Senator DIRKSEN. Now, you are asking for additional people for fiscal 1956?

Mr. MCLEOD. Yes, sir.

(The following information was submitted:)

Senator DIRKSEN. In 1954 you had a total of 515. Now, those in the other agencies are paid out of this fund?

Mr. MCLEOD. Yes.

Senator DIRKSEN. Army, Health, Education, Justice, Labor, and Treasury. Then you jump to 849 for fiscal 1955. That is the current fiscal year.

Is that the number? Is that the most current number you have on the rolls, or do you have more?

Mr. SHERRERD. We have 1,599 on the rolls as of March 31.
Senator DIRKSEN. Now, you estimate for 1956, 1,564.

Mr. SHERRERD. We estimate, including the foreign employees, 3,298-1,564 Americans and 1,734 foreigners, called locals.

Senator DIRKSEN. This figure you just gave us as of March 31, is that both domestic and foreign?

Mr. SHERRERD. Yes.

Senator DIRKSEN. How many of those are on this side? How many of those are American nationals?

Mr. SHERRERD. 801 are American.

Senator DIRKSEN. This figure does not indicate here: 849 for 1955, is that limited to American nationals? Is that your current estimate for 1955?

Mr. SHERRERD. That is a total all-agency figure for Americans. Senator DIRKSEN. You have there "American." Then in the second column you have "local."

Mr. SHERRERD. That is 1,396.

Senator DIRKSEN. Then for 1956 you would jump up from an estimated 849 to 1,564 American nationals?

Mr. SHERRERD. Yes, sir.

PERSONNEL RECRUITMENT PROGRAM

Senator DIRKSEN. Will you have trouble recruiting and getting skilled and competent personnel starting the new fiscal year?

Mr. SHERRERD. Senator, we started recruiting in January for this next fiscal year. We have people in process, being investigated, and a number already cleared.

So that we do not anticipate difficulty in being able to staff up to our goal. The Army is putting on Americans now at the rate of about 70 a month. They have had quite a time building up to that point, but they now are very optimistic about getting total staff on board.

Senator DIRKSEN. I think, Mr. Chairman, that is all I have.

PARTICIPATION OF STATE DEPARTMENT EMPLOYEES

Senator KILGORE. I have a few questions to ask on this.

For instance, in your 1956 estimate you show 1,762 positions to carry out your investigation and visa issuance program. Those are State Department employees, are they not, for which you reimburse State Department. Is that right?

Mr. MCLEOD. We have kept that part of the program separate within the State Department.

Senator KILGORE. This is State Department expense and they are really State Department employees working on your program; is that right?