Mr. BEREUTER. We will convey that to Mr. Smith, and I'm certain he will be glad to have you as a co-sponsor. The gentleman from Arizona makes a similar request.

Mr. Fox. I believe I've been added, as well-Mr. Fox from Pennsylvania.

Mr. BEREUTER. So that will make it unanimous for the group, here.

If there are no further amendments, the Chair would entertain a motion to report the resolution as amended to the full Committee on International Relations.

Mr. BERMAN. I so move.

Mr. BEREUTER. Thank you, gentlemen. The motion has been made to report H. Res. 364, as amended, with the recommendations that the resolution be favorably reported to the full House. The question is on the motion. As many as are in favor will say "Aye."

[Chorus of ayes.]

Mr. BEREUTER. As many as are opposed will say "No." [No response.]

Mr. BEREUTER. The ayes appear to have it, and do have it. The motion is agreed to. Without objection, the staff director will be authorized to make technical, grammatical, and conforming amendments or changes to the text just agreed to; and I thank my colleagues.

The second order of business is H. Res. 361, calling for free and impartial elections in Cambodia, which the clerk will report.

Mr. ENNIS. "H. Res. 361, calling for free and impartial elections in Cambodia.

"Whereas, Cambodia continues to❞—

Mr. BERMAN. Mr. Chairman, I seek unanimous consent that the reading be dispensed with.

Mr. BEREUTER. Without objection.

[H. Res. 361 appears in the appendix.]

Mr. BEREUTER. I would like to address a few comments preliminarily, again, to my colleagues and for the record.

Seven months after a violent coup ousted the democratically elected First Premier Prince Ranariddh from power, Cambodia's prospects for democracy remained a shattered dream. The fragile coalition government finally disintegrated last July when Second Prime Minister Hun Sen violently expelled him from the government.

Many prominent opposition leaders fled into exile. Many of those politicians have now returned to Cambodia to prepare for the elections scheduled for July 26th. However, because of continued intimidation by forces close to the Hun Sen regime, these politicians have been unable to conduct normal political and campaign activities.

Today, 7 months after the fact, Hun Sen's regime has yet to investigate the many instances of extra-judicial killings that have taken place since the coup, despite repeated calls for accountability from domestic and international groups.

H. Res. 361 cites the coup d'etat of July 1997 and subsequent extra-judicial killings and other improper activities as evidence

that conditions do not yet exist to conduct free and fair and credible elections.

In response to these problems, H. Res. 361 urges the Cambodian Government to fully enforce the Paris Peace Accords, to restore a nonviolent and neutral political atmosphere, to allow all exiled opposition leaders, including First Premier Ranariddh, to return to Cambodia and engage in political activities without fear of political or physical reprisal, and to take further measures to ensure a credible election.

H. Res. 361 also states its unwillingness to accept as legitimate or worthy of U.S. assistance a Cambodian Government resulting from a fraudulent election.

The Chair's amendment in the nature of a substitute should be in the Members' packets. But I would like to call first upon the distinguished gentleman from California, Mr. Berman, for any comments that he might have.

Mr. BERMAN. Thank you very much, Mr. Chairman. I support the resolution. The Subcommittee held a hearing on Cambodia last week, and that hearing demonstrated the very precarious state of Cambodian democracy.

I think we need to forcefully present and act, early on, on the question of establishing the yardsticks to be met in judging whether or not the elections that are set are, in fact, free and fair.

If we wait too long, the elections will be a fait accompli. We will have lost any possibility of influencing their conduct. We will have, once again, turned our back on the Cambodian people.

So I urge the adoption of this resolution.

Mr. BEREUTER. Thank you, Mr. Berman. Are there other Members who would like to be recognized? The gentleman from California, Mr. Rohrabacher, who has focused a great deal of his timeto our advantage on Cambodia.

Mr. ROHRABACHER. Thank you. Thank you, Mr. Chairman.

Let us note that we just had some talks going on in Manila about Cambodia. Friends of Cambodia, different countries were going to meet and discuss this and try to do something that would, in some way, ease Cambodia back in the right direction.

That group got their message from Hun Sen, I guess-was this today or yesterday? It was yesterday. General Kim Sang, who is the chief of naval police, an opponent of Hun Sen, was gunned down in broad daylight in downtown Phnom Penh, and he was gunned down by two uniformed members of Hun Sen's police.

This was the message that Hun Sen, this dictator in Cambodia, was giving to the people who were about to meet in Manila to try to figure out something that could be done to try to ease Cambodia back in the right direction.

We are not going to succeed with this man with less than a full force approach. This man only understands people who have strength and courage.

Unfortunately, Hun Sen, as we know, he was not elected the leader of Cambodia, yet, as your statement said, he helped kick out, force out of their country, the man, Prince Ranariddh, who was the leader of the last election.

I might add that, in a rigged court decision, in which the kan

Mr. BEREUTER. We will convey that to Mr. Smith, and I'm certain he will be glad to have you as a co-sponsor. The gentleman from Arizona makes a similar request.

Mr. Fox. I believe I've been added, as well-Mr. Fox from Pennsylvania.

Mr. BEREUTER. So that will make it unanimous for the group, here.

If there are no further amendments, the Chair would entertain a motion to report the resolution as amended to the full Committee on International Relations.

Mr. BERMAN. I so move.

Mr. BEREUTER. Thank you, gentlemen. The motion has been made to report H. Res. 364, as amended, with the recommendations that the resolution be favorably reported to the full House. The question is on the motion. As many as are in favor will say "Aye."

"

[Chorus of ayes.]

Mr. BEREUTER. As many as are opposed will say "No." [No response.]

Mr. BEREUTER. The ayes appear to have it, and do have it. The motion is agreed to. Without objection, the staff director will be authorized to make technical, grammatical, and conforming amendments or changes to the text just agreed to; and I thank my colleagues.

The second order of business is H. Res. 361, calling for free and impartial elections in Cambodia, which the clerk will report.

Mr. ENNIS. "H. Res. 361, calling for free and impartial elections in Cambodia.

"Whereas, Cambodia continues to❞—

Mr. BERMAN. Mr. Chairman, I seek unanimous consent that the reading be dispensed with.

Mr. BEREUTER. Without objection.

[H. Res. 361 appears in the appendix.]

Mr. BEREUTER. I would like to address a few comments preliminarily, again, to my colleagues and for the record.

Seven months after a violent coup ousted the democratically elected First Premier Prince Ranariddh from power, Cambodia's prospects for democracy remained a shattered dream. The fragile coalition government finally disintegrated last July when Second Prime Minister Hun Sen violently expelled him from the govern

ment.

Many prominent opposition leaders fled into exile. Many of those politicians have now returned to Cambodia to prepare for the elections scheduled for July 26th. However, because of continued intimidation by forces close to the Hun Sen regime, these politicians have been unable to conduct normal political and campaign activities.

Today, 7 months after the fact, Hun Sen's regime has yet to investigate the many instances of extra-judicial killings that have taken place since the coup, despite repeated calls for accountability from domestic and international groups.

H. Res. 361 cites the coup d'etat of July 1997 and subsequent extra-judicial killings and other improper activities as evidence

that conditions do not yet exist to conduct free and fair and credible elections.

In response to these problems, H. Res. 361 urges the Cambodian Government to fully enforce the Paris Peace Accords, to restore a nonviolent and neutral political atmosphere, to allow all exiled opposition leaders, including First Premier Ranariddh, to return to Cambodia and engage in political activities without fear of political or physical reprisal, and to take further measures to ensure a credible election.

H. Res. 361 also states its unwillingness to accept as legitimate or worthy of U.S. assistance a Cambodian Government resulting from a fraudulent election.

The Chair's amendment in the nature of a substitute should be in the Members' packets. But I would like to call first upon the distinguished gentleman from California, Mr. Berman, for any comments that he might have.

Mr. BERMAN. Thank you very much, Mr. Chairman. I support the resolution. The Subcommittee held a hearing on Cambodia last week, and that hearing demonstrated the very precarious state of Cambodian democracy.

I think we need to forcefully present and act, early on, on the question of establishing the yardsticks to be met in judging whether or not the elections that are set are, in fact, free and fair.

If we wait too long, the elections will be a fait accompli. We will have lost any possibility of influencing their conduct. We will have, once again, turned our back on the Cambodian people.

So I urge the adoption of this resolution.

Mr. BEREUTER. Thank you, Mr. Berman. Are there other Members who would like to be recognized? The gentleman from California, Mr. Rohrabacher, who has focused a great deal of his time— to our advantage on Cambodia.

Mr. ROHRABACHER. Thank you. Thank you, Mr. Chairman.

Let us note that we just had some talks going on in Manila about Cambodia. Friends of Cambodia, different countries were going to meet and discuss this and try to do something that would, in some way, ease Cambodia back in the right direction.

That group got their message from Hun Sen, I guess-was this today or yesterday? It was yesterday. General Kim Sang, who is the chief of naval police, an opponent of Hun Sen, was gunned down in broad daylight in downtown Phnom Penh, and he was gunned down by two uniformed members of Hun Sen's police.

This was the message that Hun Sen, this dictator in Cambodia, was giving to the people who were about to meet in Manila to try to figure out something that could be done to try to ease Cambodia back in the right direction.

We are not going to succeed with this man with less than a full force approach. This man only understands people who have strength and courage.

Unfortunately, Hun Sen, as we know, he was not elected the leader of Cambodia, yet, as your statement said, he helped kick out, force out of their country, the man, Prince Ranariddh, who was the leader of the last election.

I might add that, in a rigged court decision, in which the kan

arms smuggling, the man who was not elected to be President of that country has now convicted the man who was elected President, of gun smuggling.

There seems to be something wrong with that formula somewhere.

I hope that this resolution will bring to the attention of this Administration, and to the attention of our allies, the importance of acting forcefully and together on this, or we are going to face a brutal regime like this in Cambodia for another 20 years.

The people of Cambodia will suffer under this dictatorship, just as they're suffering the corrupt dictatorship in Burma, because the West doesn't have the courage to act.

Mr. Chairman, one last thought-this should serve notice, as well, to the members of our State Department that we expect our State Department representatives, especially during a time of crisis, to be siding with those people who support and believe in de

mocracy.

It took us 5 months to get the cables to determine what our own embassy was doing in Phnom Penh during this coup d'etat of Hun Sen's, and our embassy took a neutral position. It continually told the thugs and the gangsters versus the victims that we were neutral in this, and we should not be neutral.

This resolution today puts us on the side, and lets people know that we're on the side, of democracy. Thank you very much.

Mr. BEREUTER. Thank you, Mr. Rohrabacher. I certainly join you in that expectation and demand, and I'm sorry to hear of the most recent example of political terrorism.

We are honored to be joined, I am pleased to say, by our chairman, Ben Gilman, who is, as the chairman of the Full Committee, an ex officio voting Member of all subcommittees. Welcome, Mr. Chairman.

Mr. GILMAN. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. And I'll be brief. I want to commend you and your Subcommittee on Asia and the Pacific for introducing this resolution calling for free and fair elections in Cambodia.

It's an extremely timely resolution, and tremendously important that this body continue to bring to the attention of the American people and to the world the plight of Cambodia.

Although I believe my views on the subject are well-known, I do want to express strong support for the democratic forces in Cambodia and for the Cambodian people who have suffered so much. We all are disappointed in the current state of affairs, but we are committed to bringing democracy, justice, peace, and freedom once again to the kingdom of Cambodia.

There is much work to do between now and then, but this resolution expressing the sense of Congress, I think is an appropriate measure, it's a good start, and I'm proud to be a co-sponsor. Thank you, Mr. Chairman.

Mr. BEREUTER. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I'm pleased to have you as a co-sponsor. Mr. Fox.

Mr. Fox. Just briefly, I believe that your amendment in the nature of a substitute has some key provisions.

I just wanted to highlight to the Committee Members, I think it's very important you have in there the language dealing with the