of the facilities in that part of the country. We are extremely limited in the terms of number of jails we can use. They are all overcrowded. In addition the Federal judges in the northern district of California are much concerned with inadequacies of the facilities that we are presently using. Senator MCCLELLAN. Do you have any information regarding the State and local jurisdictions as to what plans they have for additional facilities? Mr. CARLSON. We have attempted to assess this, Senator. At the present time, to the best of our knowledge, there are no plans for any major new construction in the area. Senator MCCLELLAN. I guess if they did have plans, they would want us to help them under the LEAA grant provision. So we are going to pay for it some way anyhow. Mr. PELLERZI. Then we will pay to board our people there. COST OF CONFINING FEDERAL PRISONERS IN LOCAL JAILS Senator MCCLELLAN. What is the cost now to board a person? Senator MCCLELLAN. A day? Mr. PELLERZI. Yes. Mr. CARLSON. In San Francisco, Senator, the current rate is $6.67 per man per day. Senator MCCLELLAN. That is not excessive, I don't think. Is it? They feed them. Mr. PELLERZI. It is excessive for the San Francisco jail, Senator. Senator SMITH. Where are the highest rates? Mr. PELLERZI. They are the juvenile facilities. Senator SMITH. If you could place the information in the record, please, and give us sort of a table showing how the rates vary from place to place. Mr. PELLERZI. Yes. (The information follows:) San Diego County Juvenile Hall, San Diego, California The Bureau of Prisons maintains contracts with nearly 800 local jails. In fiscal year 1969, the average of all rates charged by these jails was $5.13 per prisoner per day. data): The highest rates are charged by juvenile detention facilities. The ten highest cost facilities are tabulated below (1969 Facility Wayne County Juvenile Detention Home, Detroit, Michigan ... b. 8. King County Youth Service Center, Seattle, Washington 1,824.00 ..... Kentucky Department of Child Welfare (all institutions under jurisdiction of) The lowest rates are charged by certain jails in rural areas. A number of contracts are in effect that stipulate a daily rate of $1.00 per prisoner. Federal usage of these jails is low. Ten metropolitan contract jails accounted for 27% of the total costs paid by the Bureau in 1969. These are tabulated San Francisco County Jail, San Francisco, California To further indicate the range of contract jail rates, the below tabulation shows the average of the rates charged within 10 Judicial Districts. These 10 districts were selected on the basis of highest total costs incurred in 1969. SAN FRANCISCO METROPOLITAN CORRECTIONAL CENTER Senator MCCLELLAN. You feel like you really need to move out of San Francisco? Mr. CARLSON. Very definitely. I spoke with the Federal judges on the bench in Northern California recently and they again reiterated the need for the facility. Senator MCCLELLAN. Again, did the House give any reason for denying this? Mr. CARLSON. No, Senator. WOMEN'S FACILITY Senator MCCLELLAN. What steps have been taken to obtain a Government-owned site as a correctional facility for women? Do you have a site out there in California, San Francisco? Mr. CARLSON. No, we do not. SUGGESTED UTILIZATION OF ABANDONED GOVERNMENT FACILITIES Senator MCCLELLAN. What I am trying to suggest here is an economy measure. It seems like our Government owns an awful lot of property, and instead of going out here and paying these terrific land prices of today to get these sites, take into account where the Government has surplus land and surplus plants that it has abandoned or had to close down and build some of these things in those areas. They are closing a Federal facility down at Pine Bluff, Ark. It is a multimillion-dollar chemical plant, which cost a hundred and some-odd million. There are thousands of acres of land there. I guess the Government will hold on to it. That is just one installation. There are others in other States. Somewhere close to California, the Government no doubt has a lot of surplus property where you could secure the site and not have to go out and spend thousands of dollars an acre. I guess on the west coast it is worse than in Arkansas. In Arkansas, if you go to buy a site anywhere near a town, it will run $2,000 or $3,000 an acre. Mr. PELLERZI. That is the approach the Department uses, Senator. You described it pretty well. We go through the surplus, the GSA sites, we try to trade sites. Senator MCCLELLAN. That same thing will apply to the facility in North Carolina. That site was made available to you by the State. We have got another one here, Government-owned site as a correctional facility that is planned with a $2,055,000 request in the western section of the country. Where is that going to be built, around San Francisco? Mr. CARLSON. No decision has been reached as to the location, even as to the State. Senator MCCLELLAN. Look at the Southwest section. REQUIREMENT FOR WOMEN'S FACILITY WEST OF MISSISSIPPI Mr. CARLSON. The need for a new institution for female offenders is clearly west of the Mississippi, in terms of our population pressures. Senator MCCLELLAN. What is your real need for it? Mr. CARLSON. At the present time, Mr. Chairman, the female offenders on the west coast are confined in a small facility which is an add-on to our Federal correctional institution in California. It is actually adjacent to the facility. It is an institution which is poorly designed for its purpose, and is very crowded. It does not provide the types of facilities that we feel are essential to adequately treat the female offenders that are in our custody. Senator MCCLELLAN. What is the population that you have out there now? Mr. CARLSON. At the present time, we have 193 female offenders confined in the institution. In addition, we have contracted with some of the States in the west coast area, for the housing of some of our female offenders. Senator MCCLELLAN. So you have over 200 out there that need the accommodation? Mr. CARLSON. Well over 200, sir. Senator MCCLELLAN. Is that number increasing, too? Mr. CARLSON. Yes; the number of female offenders coming into custody is increasing. In addition, we see the same shift in types of offenders as I mentioned in connection with the male population. FACILITY AT ALDERSON, W. Va. Senator MCCLELLAN. Do you have any places over the Mississippi now where you do take care of them? Mr. CARLSON. Yes; we have one institution, at Alderson, W. Va., an institution totally designed for the female offender. At the present time we have 603 inmates confined in that institution. Senator MCCLELLAN. Are they there from all over the country, from west of the Mississippi, too? Mr. CARLSON. That is correct. Senator MCCLELLAN. Is that overcrowded? Mr. CARLSON. Yes, it is. It is very much overcrowded. Senator MCCLELLAN. What do you need to do, expand it, or build another one east of the Mississippi? Mr. CARLSON. In terms of our long-range planning, we have not firmed up our plans as to where to handle the female offender on the east coast. Right now we feel the No. 1 priority for the female offender is on the west coast. Senator MCCLELLAN. You would have to do without something, to defer your further investment in facilities here east of the Mississippi for later, so that you can take care of the more urgent need out there. Is that right? Mr. CARLSON. Yes, sir. BALTIMORE METROPOLITAN CORRECTIONAL CENTER Senator MCCLELLAN. What about your request in Baltimore? What is that? Mr. CARLSON. This is a metropolitan correctional center much like the facilities discussed in Chicago and San Francisco. Baltimore is another metropolitan area of the country where we have a relatively large number of Federal offenders housed and waiting trial before |