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Mr. BOGGS. Yes, sir.

Senator HARRIS. Now, as to Germany, how would those figures be? Mr. BOGGS. At the present time the German quota per million is a little larger than that of Great Britain, or about 812 compared to 752. Under the national origins the ratio is 395 to 1,457, as reported

last year.

Senator COPELAND. What does that mean in figures?

Mr. BOGGS. It means for a person in Germany, at the present time, a slightly greater chance; and under the national origins the chance would be between one-third and one-fourth that of a person in Great Britain.

Senator COPELAND. That is to say, under the present law the German has the same chance to enter the country as the Englishman has; is that true?

Mr. BOGGS. Yes, sir; or a little better than the Englishman.
Senator COPELAND. A little better than or at least equal to it?
Mr. BOGGS. Yes, sir.

Senator COPELAND. And under the national-origins provision his prospect of admission would be what?

Mr. BOGGS. Between one-third and one-fourth as great as the Englishman would have.

Senator COPELAND. He has an equal chance now, and under the new plan he would have only one-fourth the chance the Englishman has?

Mr. BOGGS. Approximately, that is true-somewhat better than one-fourth the chance that the Englishman would have.

Senator HARRIS. What are the figures for Mexico under the national origins?

Mr. BOGGS. There are none; there is no quota.

Senator HARRIS. I thought you could give an estimate of what would come in under the national origins.

Mr. BOGGS. There is no quota whatever from Mexico under either system.

Senator HARRIS. I understand; but if there was a quota ?

Senator NYE (interposing). You have not given any study to that?

Mr. BOGGS. No; not any appreciable study. I have used the figures somewhat, of course. But the schemes that have been proposed have been different and there was nothing to apply it to.

Senator COPELAND. Mr. Boggs, will you give us two more quotas, Italy and Poland? Under the present law what is the relationship of the Poland immigration to the English?

Mr. BOGGS. The Italian has an opportunity at the present time one-eighth of that of the person from Great Britain.

Senator COPELAND. And under the new law, what would it be? Mr. BOGGS. Approximately one-tenth.

Senator COPELAND. What about Poland?

Mr. BOGGS. At the present time a little more than one-fourth that of Great Britain, and under the national origins it would be approximately one-sixth that of great Britain in proportion to the population.

Senator COPELAND. At the present time it is practically onefourth?

Mr. BOGGS. Yes. Under the national origins the Polish quota is practically the same as at present, but the quota per million population is approximately one-sixth as great as that of Great Britain and northern Ireland would be.

Senator COPELAND. The quota has not changed particularly?

Mr. BOGGS. No; the Polish quota is almost the same in the two systems.

The CHAIRMAN. Mr. Boggs, you referred to a report submitted heretofore, and in that you said you thought there would be little alteration in figures that might hereafter be devised. Is that report the one dated February 15, 1928?

Mr. BOGGS. Yes, sir.

Senator COPELAND. And that is the report made by Doctor Hill? Mr. BOGGS. That is right; by the committee of which Doctor Hill is chairman.

Senator REED. Mr. Boggs, have you a copy of that map you have been using that you can leave with the committee?

Mr. BOGGS. Yes, sir.

Senator REED. I would ask that that be put in the record, Mr. Chairman.

Mr. Boggs. It will be somewhat revised on the basis of the final report.

Senator REED. This is based on the quotas shown in the report last year?

Mr. BOGGS. Yes, sir.

The CHAIRMAN. That is, the report you have just been referring to, of February 15, 1928?

Mr. BoGGs. Yes, sir.

The CHAIRMAN. At this point, therefore, at the request of Senator Reed, the map and statement submitted by the witness will be inserted.

(The statements referred to are as follows:)

Immigration quotas, European countries, and demands for immigration visas (based upon reports of American consular officers, July 1, 1928)

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