tion that goes for the FBI or for juvenile justice there is reasonably enough money to do the job.

Attorney General THORNBURGH. Somebody may have a different opinion. I mean, I am the Attorney General, but I am fallible. Someone could say you shouldn't do as much in white collar crime; you should do more in juvenile justice.

The CHAIRMAN. I understand, but it is kind of interesting that the Congress, Republican and Democrat, and the Attorney General are in agreement that you should be doing and getting more.

If you notice, there has been no partisan disagreement here on this Hill. It has been a disagreement between the Congress and the President. Every vote, every single vote, relative to giving your Department more money that was either amending the President's strategy or proposing to change the President's approach-every vote passed with overwhelming bipartisan approval, saying, Mr. President, you are wrong, you are wrong. It is not a partisan thing up here; it is clear. We go through the partisan gyrations here, but it is clear we are going to try to give you more again.

Let me move on to another issue quickly. Last fall, I introduced legislation designed, or at least intended, to improve the judicial response to cases involving child neglect and child abuse. One of the things the bill I have introduced calls for is the creation of a Federal offense for drug-related child abuse cases.

For example, the bill also calls into question the need to-calls for supporting the career criminal approach in sentencing child abusers. The bill would direct the Sentencing Commission to amend its guidelines so the defendant who is convicted of a Federal drug-related child abuse offense and has two prior convictions for abuse of children would be subject to the maximum penalty allowed by law.

Have you had a chance to determine whether or not you would support either of those provisions?

Attorney General THORNBURGH. We are presently reviewing them and do not have a position on them at the present time.

The CHAIRMAN. I appreciate that answer. I will submit for your consideration and response several questions relating to the CASA program, also relating to the CEPA program and savings and loan prosecutorial or investigative requirements you have, as well as submit a question by the distinguished Senator from Ohio on antitrust resources available to you.

And Senator Heflin apparently has some questions to submit, as well as does Senator Simon.

Now, I understand you had to leave at 12:30, and we have kept you beyond that. The Senator from South Carolina asked if you would stay until he got back. He went to vote and he will be back in 1 minute, and since he is my chairman, I will let you two work that out. I am going to go vote. You can make a judgment whether or not you are going to stay.

I have no more questions. I will not insist that you stay, but I also will not get between you and Senator Thurmond. But I understand you did indicate you had to leave by 12:30, correct?

Attorney General THORNBURGH. Oh, I signed up for the duration. The CHAIRMAN. You signed up for the duration?

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Attorney General THORNBURG. I had an appointment, but that

The CHAIRMAN. Well, then, I will not be coming back, nor will any other members. So it is just a few questions that Senator Thurmond has, if you are prepared to wait.

Attorney General THORNBURG. Fine.

The CHAIRMAN. And I will ask staff to ask Senator Thurmond to close down the hearing when he finishes.

I thank you very much, General. Thank you for your time, and thank you for your agreement to come on back up. I look forward to hearing these answers.

The Senator has decided he does not wish to delay you any further, and so unless you have a closing statement, which you are welcome to make, we will recess the hearing.

Attorney General THORNBURG. I am now at large, so look out. The CHAIRMAN. All right.

Attorney General THORNBURG. Thank you.

The CHAIRMAN. Thank you very much.

[Attorney General Thornburgh submitted the following material:]

tion that goes for the FBI or for juvenile justice there is reasonably enough money to do the job.

Attorney General THORNBURGH. Somebody may have a different opinion. I mean, I am the Attorney General, but I am fallible. Someone could say you shouldn't do as much in white collar crime; you should do more in juvenile justice.

The CHAIRMAN. I understand, but it is kind of interesting that the Congress, Republican and Democrat, and the Attorney General are in agreement that you should be doing and getting more.

If you notice, there has been no partisan disagreement here on this Hill. It has been a disagreement between the Congress and the President. Every vote, every single vote, relative to giving your Department more money that was either amending the President's strategy or proposing to change the President's approach-every vote passed with overwhelming bipartisan approval, saying, Mr. President, you are wrong, you are wrong. It is not a partisan thing up here; it is clear. We go through the partisan gyrations here, but it is clear we are going to try to give you more again.

Let me move on to another issue quickly. Last fall, I introduced legislation designed, or at least intended, to improve the judicial response to cases involving child neglect and child abuse. One of the things the bill I have introduced calls for is the creation of a Federal offense for drug-related child abuse cases.

For example, the bill also calls into question the need to-calls for supporting the career criminal approach in sentencing child abusers. The bill would direct the Sentencing Commission to amend its guidelines so the defendant who is convicted of a Federal drug-related child abuse offense and has two prior convictions for abuse of children would be subject to the maximum penalty allowed by law.

Have you had a chance to determine whether or not you would support either of those provisions?

Attorney General THORNBURGH. We are presently reviewing them and do not have a position on them at the present time.

The CHAIRMAN. I appreciate that answer. I will submit for your consideration and response several questions relating to the CASA program, also relating to the CEPA program and savings and loan prosecutorial or investigative requirements you have, as well as submit a question by the distinguished Senator from Ohio on antitrust resources available to you.

And Senator Heflin apparently has some questions to submit, as well as does Senator Simon.

Now, I understand you had to leave at 12:30, and we have kept you beyond that. The Senator from South Carolina asked if you would stay until he got back. He went to vote and he will be back in 1 minute, and since he is my chairman, I will let you two work that out. I am going to go vote. You can make a judgment whether or not you are going to stay.

I have no more questions. I will not insist that you stay, but I also will not get between you and Senator Thurmond. But I understand you did indicate you had to leave by 12:30, correct?

Attorney General THORNBURGH. Oh, I signed up for the duration. The CHAIRMAN. You signed up for the duration?

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Attorney General THORNBURG. I had an appointment, but that

The CHAIRMAN. Well, then, I will not be coming back, nor will any other members. So it is just a few questions that Senator Thurmond has, if you are prepared to wait.

Attorney General THORNBURG. Fine.

The CHAIRMAN. And I will ask staff to ask Senator Thurmond to close down the hearing when he finishes.

I thank you very much, General. Thank you for your time, and thank you for your agreement to come on back up. I look forward to hearing these answers.

The Senator has decided he does not wish to delay you any further, and so unless you have a closing statement, which you are welcome to make, we will recess the hearing.

Attorney General THORNBURG. I am now at large, so look out. The CHAIRMAN. All right.

Attorney General THORNBURG. Thank you.

The CHAIRMAN. Thank you very much.

[Attorney General Thornburgh submitted the following material:]

tion that goes for the FBI or for juvenile justice there is reasonably enough money to do the job.

Attorney General THORNBURGH. Somebody may have a different opinion. I mean, I am the Attorney General, but I am fallible. Someone could say you shouldn't do as much in white collar crime; you should do more in juvenile justice.

The CHAIRMAN. I understand, but it is kind of interesting that the Congress, Republican and Democrat, and the Attorney General are in agreement that you should be doing and getting more.

If you notice, there has been no partisan disagreement here on this Hill. It has been a disagreement between the Congress and the President. Every vote, every single vote, relative to giving your Department more money that was either amending the President's strategy or proposing to change the President's approach-every vote passed with overwhelming bipartisan approval, saying, Mr. President, you are wrong, you are wrong. It is not a partisan thing up here; it is clear. We go through the partisan gyrations here, but it is clear we are going to try to give you more again.

Let me move on to another issue quickly. Last fall, I introduced legislation designed, or at least intended, to improve the judicial response to cases involving child neglect and child abuse. One of the things the bill I have introduced calls for is the creation of a Federal offense for drug-related child abuse cases.

For example, the bill also calls into question the need to-calls for supporting the career criminal approach in sentencing child abusers. The bill would direct the Sentencing Commission to amend its guidelines so the defendant who is convicted of a Federal drug-related child abuse offense and has two prior convictions for abuse of children would be subject to the maximum penalty allowed by law.

Have you had a chance to determine whether or not you would support either of those provisions?

Attorney General THORNBURGH. We are presently reviewing them and do not have a position on them at the present time.

The CHAIRMAN. I appreciate that answer. I will submit for your consideration and response several questions relating to the CASA program, also relating to the CEPA program and savings and loan prosecutorial or investigative requirements you have, as well as submit a question by the distinguished Senator from Ohio on antitrust resources available to you.

And Senator Heflin apparently has some questions to submit, as well as does Senator Simon.

Now, I understand you had to leave at 12:30, and we have kept you beyond that. The Senator from South Carolina asked if you would stay until he got back. He went to vote and he will be back in 1 minute, and since he is my chairman, I will let you two work that out. I am going to go vote. You can make a judgment whether or not you are going to stay.

I have no more questions. I will not insist that you stay, but I also will not get between you and Senator Thurmond. But I understand you did indicate you had to leave by 12:30, correct?

Attorney General THORNBURGH. Oh, I signed up for the duration. The CHAIRMAN. You signed up for the duration?